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You vote in..?

Left
73
37%
Right
68
35%
Anarchy
8
4%
Far Left
16
8%
Far Right
11
6%
Abstention
14
7%
Monarchy
7
4%
 
Total votes: 197

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Postby Dakkus » Fri Nov 28, 2003 10:13 am

Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

So, not quite as radical as BossaNova and Jules, but quite radical anyway.
I guess the numbers are quite right. I'm mostly far leftist, but don't fully agree with it. And I live in an anarchistic community :)
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Postby bhoeyb » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:00 pm

Economic Left/Right: -4.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51

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Postby BossaNova » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:55 pm

Dakkus wrote:Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

So, not quite as radical as BossaNova and Jules, but quite radical anyway.
I guess the numbers are quite right. I'm mostly far leftist, but don't fully agree with it. And I live in an anarchistic community :)


the funny is that I don't see my self as a radical.. in fact when I answered the test, most of the answers seemed so "common sense" to me, that I thought the main diference would be between those who said strongly or not..

or is just that the ones with more then -2 are some facists bastards?! :twisted:

bn :roll:

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Postby Ganymede » Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:44 pm

BossaNova wrote:or is just that the ones with more then -2 are some facists bastards?! :twisted:

bn :roll:

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

For all the comrades out there:

Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders
And at last ends the age of cant.
Away with all your superstitions
Servile masses arise, arise
We'll change henceforth the old tradition
And spurn the dust to win the prize.

So comrades, come rally
And the last fight let us face
The Internationale
Unites the human race.

:!:

De pé, ó vítimas da fome,
De pé, famélicos da terra
Da idéia a chama já consome
A crosta bruta que a soterra
Cortai o mal bem pelo fundo
De pé, de pé, não mais senhores
Se nada somos em tal mundo
Sejamos tudo, ó produtores

Bem unidos façamos
Desta luta final
Uma terra sem amos
A Internacional.

:!:

Ontwaakt, verworpenen der aarde!
Ontwaakt, verdoemde in hongers sfeer!
Reedlijk willen stroomt over de aarde
En die stroom rijst al meer en meer.
Sterft, gij oude vormen en gedachten!
Slaafgeboornen,ontwaakt,ontwaakt!
De wereld steunt op nieuwe krachten,
Begeerte heeft ons aangeraakt!

Makkers, ten laatste male,
Tot den strijd ons geschaard,
en D'Internationale
Zal morgen heersen op aard.

:!:

Vstavaj, prokljat'em zaklejmennyj,
Ves' mir golodnyx i rabov!
Kipit nash razum vozmushchennyj
I v smertnyj boj vesti gotov.
Ves' mir nasil'ja my razrushimDo osnovan'ja, a zatem--
My nash, my novyj mir postroim: Kto byl nichem, tot stanet vsem!

E^to est' nash poslednij
I reshitel'nyj boj,
S Internacionalom
Vosprjanet rod ljudskoj!

:!:

Debout! les damnés de la terre!
Debout! les forçats de la faim!
La raison tonne en son cratère,
C'est l'éruption de la fin.
Du passé faisons table rase,
Foule esclave, debout! debout!
Le monde va changer de base:
Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout!

C'est la lutte finale:
Groupons-nous, et demain,
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain.
C'est la lutte finale:
Groupons-nous, et demain,
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain.

Original words by Eugene Pottier (Paris 1871)

Thanks to the Nieuwe Communistische Partij Nederland
I don't háve a life.

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Postby Dakkus » Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:21 pm

Ganymede wrote:
BossaNova wrote:or is just that the ones with more then -2 are some facists bastards?! :twisted:

bn :roll:

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

For all the comrades out there:

Arise ye workers from your slumbers
Arise ye prisoners of want
For reason in revolt now thunders...

-- clip --

....Sera le genre humain.
C'est la lutte finale:
Groupons-nous, et demain,
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain.

Original words by Eugene Pottier (Paris 1871)

Thanks to the Nieuwe Communistische Partij Nederland


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Internationale

1.

Työn orjat sorron yöstä nouskaa
The slaves of work! Rise from the night of oppression
maan ääriin kuuluu kutsumus.
To the farthest point of the world we are called to go
Nyt ryskyin murtuu pakkovalta
Now the power of force will break crushing
tää on viime ponnistus.
This is the last fight.

Pohja vanhan järjestelmän horjuu
The base of the old system is waving
orjajoukko taistohon.
the slave group to a fight
Alas lyökää koko vanha maailma
Punch down the whole old world
ja valta teidän silloin on.
And the power shall then be yours

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others

2.

Ei muuta johtajaa ei luojaa
No other leader no creator
kuin kansa kaikkivaltias.
than the people allmighty
Se yhteisonnen säätää suojaa
It the commonhappines rules and protects
se on turva tarmokas.
it's the security that works much and happily

Eestä leivän, hengen, kunniamme,
For bread, life, our glory
yössä sorron, turmion,
In the night of oppression, of doom
kukin painakaamme palkeitamme
Each of us shall boost the fire
kun käymme työhön, taistohon.
when we go for work, to fighting

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others

3.

Lait pettää, hallitukset sortaa,
The laws are cheating, the governments are oppressing,
verot köyhälistön verta juo,
the taxes drink the blood of the poor,
Ja köyhän ihmisoikeuskin
And even the human right of the poor
ompi tyhjä lause tuo.
is just an empty phrase

Pois jo kansat holhouksen alta.
Away the peoples from under the control of others
Veljeyden sääntö on:
The rule of brotherhood is:
kellä velvoitusta, sillä valtaa
Who has to do things, he has the power
ja oikeutta olkohon.
and there shall be justice

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others

4.

On kurjan kurjat kunniassaan
The cruds of crud are on their glory
raharuhtinaat nuo röyhkeät.
Those money lords so arrogant
Ei koskaan tee ne itse työtä,
Never do they work theirselves
vaan ne työtä ryöstävät.
but steal the work instead

Varat kansan hankkimat on menneet
The money the people has achieved has gone
kaikki konnain kukkaroon.
all to the purse of the thieves
Pois kansa velkansa jo vaatii,
The people wants to get it's debt away
nyt ryöstösaalis tuotakoon.
now what has been stolen shall earn us something

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others

5.

Työmiehet, kyntäjät ja kaikki
The workers, the farmers and everyone
työkansa joukko nälkäinen!
The labour people the group that is hungry
Maa meidän on ja olla täytyy,
The land is ours and it shall ours be
vaan ei laiskain lurjusten.
but not of the lazy sluggers

Nälkä meill’ on aina vieraanamme,
The hunger is always visiting us
vaan kun korpit haaskoiltaan
But just like the crows from the dead animals
me kerran kaikki karkoitamme,
we will once kick everyone away
niin päivä pääsee paistamaan.
so the day will get to shine

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others

6.

Meit valhein ruokkii tyrannit
The tyrannes are feeding us with lies
mut rauha meille koittakoon.
But the peace shall come for us
Nyt lakko tehdään armeijoissa,
Now we'll make a strike in the armies
aseet pois pantakoon.
the weapons shall be put away

Ja jos aikovat nuo kannibaalit
And if those cannibals are going to
sankareita meistä taas,
make us heroes
niin tietäkööt he, että luodit
shall they know that the bullets
silloin kenraalimme saa.
will then get our generals

Tää on viimeinen taisto,
This is the last battle
rintamaamme yhtykää
Let our frontiers unite
niin huomispäivänä kansat
So in tomorrow's day the peoples
on veljet keskenään.
[are/will be] brothers with each others
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Postby androl » Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:48 pm

I am
Economic Left/Right: -6.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33

Elmo wrote:My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 2.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.21

That means that I am between Gerhard Schröder and Tony Blair.

:o Elmo the black sheep :lol:

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Postby Dakkus » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:39 pm

Dakkus wrote:Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.67

So, not quite as radical as BossaNova and Jules, but quite radical anyway.
I guess the numbers are quite right. I'm mostly far leftist, but don't fully agree with it. And I live in an anarchistic community :)


My current situation:
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.79

And I thought I had become less radical.. Scary.
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Postby Elmo » Fri Feb 18, 2005 7:18 pm

androl wrote:
Elmo wrote:My political compass:

Economic Left/Right: 2.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 2.21

That means that I am between Gerhard Schröder and Tony Blair.

:o Elmo the black sheep :lol:


No, I am a rebel! 8) :twisted:

This is my compass now:
Economic Left/Right: 1.50
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.95
I am lefter than I thought, but I guess this compass is American. If the
compass were European, I would be around 5 for both of them! Or it is
because about some topics I have left ideas (f.e. about sex topics), and
about other ones right ideas (f.e. no legalization of mariuhana, abortion
only when a woman's life is in danger or when she has been raped).
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Postby Tahiti » Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:51 pm

I have to say that I am left because I have grew up in a worker's class-family and I know what poverty in Finland is but really I hate all the politicians. Especially the left parties in Finland are such a hypocrites. The right-wingers at least admits that they only care about wealthy people.

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Postby groentje » Sat Feb 19, 2005 4:08 am

I don't like people who hate politicians, but refuse to do something about it (e.g. go into politics). Only if you participate in politics (even not as a politician, or a member of a political party), you will understand that politics is about having principals, and making compromises. These things don't exclude each other.
I'm not a politician, but I do am politically active, in the student organisation I'm with, the environment organisation I'm with, even the youth organisation I participate with. So, I don't really understand people who hate politicians, and politics.

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Postby 4561 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:05 pm

Far left/anarchy, but i voted for anarchy.

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Postby androl » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:37 pm

Elmo wrote:I am lefter than I thought, but I guess this compass is American. If the
compass were European, I would be around 5 for both of them! Or it is
because about some topics I have left ideas (f.e. about sex topics), and
about other ones right ideas (f.e. no legalization of mariuhana, abortion
only when a woman's life is in danger or when she has been raped).

I think these last two points are more Authoritarian than Right. Right means that you think the big money has to belong to private companies that control the free market.
Are there any explanations what Economic Left/Right / Libertarian/Authoritarian actually means?

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Postby Poutsi » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:54 pm

I dislike labeling but I think I consider myself a moderate liberal (liberal as in its classical definition, not liberal as in American politics).

Political compass:
Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54

Elmo wrote:I am lefter than I thought, but I guess this compass is American.

The test is actually British.

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Postby Fonzie » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:06 am

I'm in city council for the liberal party... which is (strangely) in my country considered right-wing :roll: :wink:
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Postby Kyypupu » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:53 am

Absolutely nowhere. Couldn´t care less about politics or voting either.


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