"Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby lmviterbo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:04 pm

xja wrote:The grain surrounding the serial number is because of jpeg compression.
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Oops, seems that you are right and VH is indeed a new letter combination on the serial number.

H and Z share the same checksum value (zero). I wonder if this means that VH is some kind of test serial put in circulation, just like we suspect to be the case for NZ and XZ. (SZ has also been printed but keeps on not showing up in the wild.)

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby LArdennais » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:06 pm

So, for you : V003 = test plate ? Like :note-5: Z002 ?
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Postby lmviterbo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:13 pm

LArdennais wrote:So, for you : V003 = test plate ? Like :note-5: Z002 ?

That's what I suppose, yes. Nothing but an (arguably) educated guess, though.

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby JordiJanTaxi » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:14 pm

lmviterbo wrote:
xja wrote:The grain surrounding the serial number is because of jpeg compression.
Learn about it here

Oops, seems that you are right and VH is indeed a new letter combination on the serial number.

H and Z share the same checksum value (zero). I wonder if this means that VH is some kind of test serial put in circulation, just like we suspect to be the case for NZ and XZ. (SZ has also been printed but keeps on not showing up in the wild.)


I don't understand this thing of the test series. What kind of test would it be? Tests are carried long before releasing bills, with papers, inks, impressions, wrecking them, putting them in different liquid solutions, washer machines, freezing and boiling and so on. And they are not put into circulation. Why should banknotes with XZ, NZ o VH serialnumbers be "test series"?

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby lmviterbo » Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:36 pm

Well, here's what I can imagine: either a new stress test has been invented, or a new benchmark composed of old and new tests. This actually happens all the time.

What happens next might be the following (I'm kind of guessing here):

ECB wants to check how current banknotes cope with these new tests. In order to do that, it may be more reasonable to make a whole new batch of notes just for this purpose. Notes on the batch that are tested will eventually get shredded, even if they cope well with the tests, because they are no longer UNCirculated (for some reason, non-uncirculated notes may not be allowed to be issued from the central banks). Other notes on the batch will not be tested, because it's not required to test, say, a million notes, and that is the smallest "charge" you can make.

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby +BBBB+ » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:23 pm

lmviterbo wrote:
Updated list of known printer codes:

E/E (EA)
M/M (MD)
P/P (PB)
S/S (SA-SE)
U/U (probably UA-UE; UD is certain)
V/V (VA)
Z/Z (ZB)

+BBBB+, great find (I actually couldn't find anything like that, even after you posted that picture)




Thank you. A few days before the official release of the new :note-50: , one more printer code . The W/W (WA).
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby avij » Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:02 pm

OK, thanks for information. I will be making the necessary changes to our development site late this evening and push the changes to EBT on Monday evening or so. I think I'll allow codes [EMPSUVWZ][A-F], like is done for most of the earlier Europa series notes.
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby fcbruges » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:51 am

The ninth and last one for now is R (Bundesdruckerei)

http://m.lvz.de/Mitteldeutschland/News/ ... aesentiert

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby lmviterbo » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:48 am

fcbruges, if I read it right, the article mentions the Bundesdruckerei as being one of the new 50-euro banknotes printers, but are you sure that it is solid information? The video shows only WA notes (which, by the way, have already been reported as public serials).

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Postby ErGo » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:32 am

fcbruges wrote:The ninth and last one for now is R (Bundesdruckerei)

http://m.lvz.de/Mitteldeutschland/News/ ... aesentiert
In the text is only a "W"-note mentioned!

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby tabbs » Mon Apr 03, 2017 11:21 am

Then again the article also says: "G&D ist neben der Bundesdruckerei in Berlin das einzige Unternehmen deutscher Herkunft, das die überarbeiteten Fünfziger für die Bundesbank produziert". So both Giesecke & Devrient (in Leipzig; don't think they still print notes in Munich) and the Bundesdruckerei produce them ...

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby avij » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:13 pm

avij wrote:OK, thanks for information. I will be making the necessary changes to our development site late this evening and push the changes to EBT on Monday evening or so. I think I'll allow codes [EMPSUVWZ][A-F], like is done for most of the earlier Europa series notes.

This has now been done. You may need to hit (shift|control)-F5 on the note entry page to get the new javascript that validates serial numbers, or clear your browser's cache.
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby davidzaz » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:38 pm

lmviterbo wrote:
Updated list of known printer codes:

E/E (EA)
M/M (MD)
P/P (PB)
S/S (SA-SE)
U/U (probably UA-UE; UD is certain)
V/V (VA)
Z/Z (ZB)







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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby avij » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:42 pm

As usual, you can follow http://miuku.net/tmp/first-50e-europa-notes.txt to see who gets the first 50e notes in their hands. The layout looks a bit messy now, but it will look better once there are more entries.
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Postby vermeer » Mon Apr 03, 2017 9:51 pm

The first note is entered before the day the new note of :note-50: is issued. I call that an offside!


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