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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby greyshade » Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:49 pm

similar things here.. i see the number of old :note-5: in southern germany to be very low, but stable; ~1/10 i'd say.. i do see old :note-5: at atms from time to time, but only in such branches that have cash recycling atms..

in northern italy where i currently spend most time the number of old :note-5: is significantly higher and seems to be slowly growing compared to summer! don't know what banks hand out though since i only enter notes i get from circulation while in italy..

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby androl » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:24 pm

since it's not possible to see how many notes of which series have been entered in the EBT stats (due to problems with V and Z notes), I have made a statistics from
http://leopardi.miuku.net/tmp/denominat ... ountry.txt

:note-5: entered last week - Mon Dec 30 05:00:35 EET 2013 - Mon Jan 6 05:04:13 EET 2014

(Europa :note-5: ) / :note-5: = percent

all: 104878 / 123086 = 85,2%
Germany: 48572 / 51820 = 93,7%
Belgium: 24858 / 27372 = 90,8%
Austria: 10331 / 11601 = 89,1%
Netherlands: 4732 / 4545 = 104,1%, dang, 5/N/F005 went down from 408716 to 408042, never trust a statistics that includes fake entries :cry:
Finland: 1674 / 6514 = 25,7% (really??? 8O )
Italy: 1963 / 2006 = 97,9%
France: 5659 / 9061 = 62,5%
Spain: 635 / 1654 = 38,4% ( 8O )
Slovenia+Slovakia: 1522 / 2194 = 69,4%
Greece: 149 / 261 = 57,1%
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby avij » Sat Jan 11, 2014 8:08 pm

I don't know how you calculated your numbers and where you made the error, but similar stats were already easily available without errors at http://miuku.net/tmp/first-europa-notes.txt , showing 49.3505% for Netherlands.
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Aatos99 » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:06 pm

It's true, that here (in Finland) is lots of more old fivers than the new ones :) My own five euro notes speak about that,because I have entered 34 :note-5: in the year 2014 and 31 of that are old fivers. And I think that it's good thing,because I have got many new combinations with old Duisenberg notes. Some of us are so lucky that they got great hits from Austria with those notes. It's funny to think that we use money which have been in Austria (and somewhere else too) many years ago and then those notes have been in banks many years and now we use it again. And I speak especially about notes which come from Geldservice Austria bunches. I would say that in Finland most of old fivers are Duisenberg notes now :D
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby LArdennais » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:41 pm

Hi ;)

In :flag-be: the best way to find again old :note-5: is to come into a bank and to ask to the cash desk...with smiling, of course ! :D
(Just for information, today, I have gone to Brabant Wallon's province : only ONE ATM (CBC Wavre) gave to me a mix of "2002" & "2013" :note-5: :arrow: 50% / 50% ! 8O )
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Dioniz » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:19 pm

androl wrote::note-5: entered last week - Mon Dec 30 05:00:35 EET 2013 - Mon Jan 6 05:04:13 EET 2014

(Europa :note-5: ) / :note-5: = percent

all: 104878 / 123086 = 85,2%
Germany: 48572 / 51820 = 93,7%
Belgium: 24858 / 27372 = 90,8%
Austria: 10331 / 11601 = 89,1%
Netherlands: 4732 / 4545 = 104,1%, dang, 5/N/F005 went down from 408716 to 408042, never trust a statistics that includes fake entries :cry:
Finland: 1674 / 6514 = 25,7% (really??? 8O )
Italy: 1963 / 2006 = 97,9%
France: 5659 / 9061 = 62,5%
Spain: 635 / 1654 = 38,4% ( 8O )
Slovenia+Slovakia: 1522 / 2194 = 69,4%
Greece: 149 / 261 = 57,1%

Not that I have anything against Slovakia but is there any special reason to put Slovenia and Slovakia statisticly together :?:
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby luckbox » Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:58 pm

What happened in Slovakia? Less than 200 :note-5: in the last 7 days 8O

Ontopic: I received UNC fivers from the 2002 series from an ATM in :flag-nl: last Thursday. I hope DNB keeps the 2002 fivers in roulation for a long time, but I'm not happy with UNC 2002 fivers (very low hit chance).

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby androl » Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:09 am

avij wrote:I don't know how you calculated your numbers and where you made the error, but similar stats were already easily available without errors at http://miuku.net/tmp/first-europa-notes.txt , showing 49.3505% for Netherlands.


I did it like this:

your file, from 30.12.2013 05:00:35, showed these numbers:

EU1:
| 5 | F005 | N | Netherlands | 408716 | 2004-02 |
| 5 | R005 | X | Netherlands | 404272 | 2002-08 |
| 5 | G007 | P | Netherlands | 334340 | 2002-04 |
| 5 | E005 | P | Netherlands | 334163 | 2007-03 |
| 5 | E002 | P | Netherlands | 283206 | 2008-12 |
| 5 | P006 | P | Netherlands | 274022 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | L022 | U | Netherlands | 226446 | 2003-10 |
| 5 | G001 | P | Netherlands | 173110 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | L025 | U | Netherlands | 168321 | 2004-03 |
| 5 | G004 | P | Netherlands | 154986 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | M006 | V | Netherlands | 149271 | 2004-08 |
| 5 | P015 | X | Netherlands | 141535 | 2005-07 |
| 5 | T001 | Z | Netherlands | 140892 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | M005 | V | Netherlands | 109153 | 2005-01 |
...
total 5834392

Europa:
| 5 | N017 | N | Netherlands | 84064 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | N014 | N | Netherlands | 19485 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | V001 | V | Netherlands | 8746 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | V002 | V | Netherlands | 4928 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | Z003 | Z | Netherlands | 4686 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | U002 | U | Netherlands | 3777 | 2006-08 |
| 5 | U007 | U | Netherlands | 2277 | 2004-09 |
| 5 | U005 | U | Netherlands | 2265 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | U006 | U | Netherlands | 2051 | 2010-02 |
| 5 | V005 | V | Netherlands | 1637 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | V004 | V | Netherlands | 1512 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | U004 | U | Netherlands | 1362 | 2005-03 |
| 5 | N004 | N | Netherlands | 1107 | 2013-05 |
...
total 144425

I added all the numbers for N/N, S/S, U/U, V/V, Z/Z (Europa) and other combinations (EU1)

and the next week, it showed:
06.01.2014 05:04:13

| 5 | F005 | N | Netherlands | 408042 | 2004-02 |
| 5 | R005 | X | Netherlands | 404189 | 2002-08 |
| 5 | E005 | P | Netherlands | 335538 | 2007-03 |
| 5 | G007 | P | Netherlands | 333713 | 2002-04 |
| 5 | E002 | P | Netherlands | 283205 | 2008-12 |
| 5 | P006 | P | Netherlands | 273661 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | L022 | U | Netherlands | 226205 | 2003-10 |
| 5 | G001 | P | Netherlands | 172957 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | L025 | U | Netherlands | 168442 | 2004-03 |
| 5 | G004 | P | Netherlands | 154917 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | M006 | V | Netherlands | 149129 | 2004-08 |
| 5 | P015 | X | Netherlands | 141613 | 2005-07 |
| 5 | T001 | Z | Netherlands | 140723 | 2002-01 |
| 5 | M005 | V | Netherlands | 108979 | 2005-01 |
| 5 | R006 | X | Netherlands | 90900 | 2002-10 |
| 5 | P011 | X | Netherlands | 88473 | 2004-02 |
| 5 | E010 | H | Netherlands | 85941 | 2012-01 |
total 5834205

| 5 | N017 | N | Netherlands | 85524 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | N014 | N | Netherlands | 19933 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | V001 | V | Netherlands | 9085 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | Z003 | Z | Netherlands | 5639 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | V002 | V | Netherlands | 5135 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | U002 | U | Netherlands | 3971 | 2006-08 |
| 5 | U007 | U | Netherlands | 2469 | 2004-09 |
| 5 | U005 | U | Netherlands | 2402 | 2013-05 |
| 5 | U006 | U | Netherlands | 2207 | 2010-02 |
total 149157

this means that a lot of old notes were deleted within that week

Now it's Monday again (oops, Tuesday, the church bell is ringing :) )

last week:
06.01.2014 - 13.01.2014

Germany: 44268 / 46774 = 94,6%
Finland: 2137 / 7102 = 30,1%
Netherlands: 5006 / 9549 = 52,4%
this is in line with the recent numbers on your other page

Dioniz wrote:Not that I have anything against Slovakia but is there any special reason to put Slovenia and Slovakia statisticly together :?:

- not very high number of entered notes in both countries, I was only searching for the countries with most entered notes
- (guess) similar note distribution, neighbourhood to Austria
- the possibility in my Excel formulae to search for different countries at once
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Aatos99 » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:15 pm

In last weeks I have seen more new fivers, especially in bigger shops that need lot of change money (from banks.) So I think that new fivers are slowly going in circulation and taking the place of old fivers in Finland. But I'm sure that most of fivers will be old ones for many months after this message, at least in some parts of Finland.
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Dawizz » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:09 pm

In Portugal the new Europa have taken the lead a long time go, for every 20 :note-5: (for every :note-100: in :note-5: bundles/shops etc) there's like just 2-4 at best 6 2002 8O

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Montgomery Burns » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:03 pm

Yeah, that's my impression as well. I actually get a little surprised when I find an old one these days. :lol:

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby LArdennais » Wed Apr 23, 2014 6:15 pm

Today, at :flag-be: Yvoir (BNP Paribas Fortis local branch) : 54 "old" notes found.
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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby Dawizz » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:34 pm

Montgomery Burns wrote:Yeah, that's my impression as well. I actually get a little surprised when I find an old one these days. :lol:


Exactly!! I feal the same way! This Monday I introduced a bundle of 40 :note-5: all 40 where Europa, 39 of them consecutive unc notes 8O
The bundle came from a Bank (of course :roll: )

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby xja » Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:02 pm

I found an old :note-5: yesterday in a touristic town after almost two months: I think they're becoming quite rare now...

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Re: Destruction of old design 5 euro notes

Postby dserrano5 » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:28 pm

xja wrote:I found an old :note-5: yesterday in a touristic town after almost two months: I think they're becoming quite rare now...


They're still pretty common in Spain.


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