The abdication of Albert II: new coins for Belgium?

[Montgomery Burns]

On July 3, King Albert II announced he will give up the throne on July 21 to his son Prince Philippe, Duke of Brabant.

I'm not a coin expert/collector, but I thought I'd start a thread since we also had one when Queen Beatrix abdicated earlier in 2013. So, does this mean new coins for the Kingdom of Belgium?

[an-148]

newspapers write about early 2014 for the release of the new coins; in the meantime, there will surely be release of collector's coins !

[LArdennais]

Confirmation on TV : new stamps for end of 2013, new coins for 2014. And no 2 € CC, instead of the Netherlands, for this abdication.

[gille]

Thanks LArdennais for the information

[GWR7007]

Great, new Belgian coins . But if I think of getting the actual 1+2 cent coins with Albert in Germany... . It took me nearly 10 years to receive the 1 cent coin. If it takes so long again, I`ll have the new one in ~2024 . Come on, Belgians, spend your Belgian cent coins in Germany (but really, not in Aachen)! Make others happy by finishing their Belgian line!

[tabbs]

Hmm, a 1 cent coin? We should simply do away with those (and the 2 ct) anyway in my opinion. Would also make things easier for you. Well, if the Belgian government actually waits until 2014, we may end up with more than just one design. The very same portrait on all denominations, that is a poor concept. Fortunately only three euro countries (BE, EE, IE) actually do that ...

Christian

[GWR7007]

Fortunately only three euro countries (BE, EE, IE) actually do that ...

Oh, no there are more: the Netherlands and Luxemburg are only showing their monarch, queen Beatrix (and maybe next year king Willem-Alexander) or the grand duke of Luxemburg, Henri. But I don`t have anything against this system, if a country wants to show it`s monarch (or has to, as in Luxemburg), why not? Still better than the boring German designs (I like the Slowenian very much, but I don`t have all, only 1 and 2 cent missing ).

Are there any plans about the design of the new Belgian coins? The new king, similar to the actual coins with Albert, so only a side portrait? Or the system I absolutely do not like, as in Spain, so the king on 1 and 2€ and new desings for the rest?

[tabbs]

If a crowned head of state thinks that he or she should be depicted on each and every coin ... well, their business. But there are still ways of avoiding monotony: The circulation coins from the Netherlands, for example, use two different portraits of Beatrix (the new designs with Willem Alexander are not known yet), and so do the pieces from Luxembourg.

Have not heard anything about new Belgian designs. One "problem" is the next king's name: While Albert works in Dutch, French and German (plus English and a few other languages), his successor is Filip in Dutch and Philippe in French. (In German people seem to use Philipp or Philippe, but that is rather a minority language in BE.) So if an initial is to be used on coins, it cannot simply be one character. (Well, they could resort to Latin Philippus.) But maybe we will simply see the king's portrait without a monogram. That being said ... we'll see.

Christian

[GWR7007]

About Luxmeburg: I read somewhere (thread 2004 or 2003 coins???) that there is a law stating that the grand duke or anything that has to do with the royal family has to be on the coins, even the comemorative ones.

Well, okay, and have, at least, two different designs. But as we`re talking about the desings: The Belgians changed the look of the 2€-10 cent coins in 2008. Compare an old Belgian (1999-2006/7) with a newer one. You`ll spot the differences!

[googlejaps]

If a crowned head of state thinks that he or she should be depicted on each and every coin ... well, their business. But there are still ways of avoiding monotony: The circulation coins from the Netherlands, for example, use two different portraits of Beatrix (the new designs with Willem Alexander are not known yet), and so do the pieces from Luxembourg.

Have not heard anything about new Belgian designs. One "problem" is the next king's name: While Albert works in Dutch, French and German (plus English and a few other languages), his successor is Filip in Dutch and Philippe in French. (In German people seem to use Philipp or Philippe, but that is rather a minority language in BE.) So if an initial is to be used on coins, it cannot simply be one character. (Well, they could resort to Latin Philippus.) But maybe we will simply see the king's portrait without a monogram. That being said ... we'll see.

Christian

In a special country like Belgium, there's always these special language issues. I recall that the Flemish were quite upset when was announced that King Filip would sign all laws using "Philippe", because this is his official name in his passport. However, if there wasn't a compromise, it wouldn't be Belgium: the laws have been changed so it is now possible obligated that above his signature (whatever drawing he decides to make) his name is printed twice, in French and Dutch

I'm not sure how they are going to solve this issue in the coin design.

About Luxmeburg: I read somewhere (thread 2004 or 2003 coins???) that there is a law stating that the grand duke or anything that has to do with the royal family has to be on the coins, even the comemorative ones.

Well, okay, and have, at least, two different designs. But as we`re talking about the desings: The Belgians changed the look of the 2€-10 cent coins in 2008. Compare an old Belgian (1999-2006/7) with a newer one. You`ll spot the differences!

The Dutch and Luxembourgian laws have been identical on this point (because of our shared past) until the Treaty of Rome coins were issued in 2007. In The Netherlands we have changed the laws to add an exception that the King or Queen doesn't have to be depicted in a coin design which is a collaboration project with all euro countries. Therefore the ToR (2007), EMU (2009) and TYE (2012) projects didn't show Queen Beatrix.
In Luxembourg the laws did not change, so every coin has to show Grand Duke Henri.

[MaxVR]

The design of our new euro coins:

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[MaxVR]

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[HBoZ]

Cool coin

Only the 1,2,5 and50 cents will be minted for 2014 70millions in total!

[ART]

Only the 1,2,5 and50 cents will be minted for 2014

And the others?

[Elmo]

They'll come in later years, I presume.