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Yelverdack wrote:
Do you know each other ?
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
No, we don't! I never heard about him before and there was no connection after the last hit till today.

It is pure coincidence that he got 2 bills in fabruary.

greetings nossi
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Re: Suspicious Hit ?

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Ernesto_due wrote:Sorry, but I have a question: this hit isn't public (viewable). I hold this note, on the other hand, my hit partnerseems to be suspect.

Thx. - Ernest
But what's the problem with this hit? Why do you think it's suspicious?

BTW: I get a failure-notification while opening your link ("certificate-problem"). Your links (both) starts with https:// instead of http://.
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De Slak wrote:Who stops roel96

It's not his first time !!!

2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:14:16 Pxxxx4376xxx (*) Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
and again :evil:

2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
2008-03-16 12:20:35 Pxxxx1580xxx (*) Gxxxxx Nuenen ( Nederland, 5673 MR)
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nossi wrote:
Yelverdack wrote:
Do you know each other ?
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
No, we don't! I never heard about him before and there was no connection after the last hit till today.

It is pure coincidence that he got 2 bills in fabruary.

greetings nossi
Why mentioning only 2 bills ?

Strangely, I count : 8 bills :

2008-03-16 10:24:15 Wien - Fribourg team nossi - tschaeggi 709 77
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13


Furthermore, the "history" of Tschaeggi does not push me in believeing that these hits are interesting.
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Ord€p wrote:JMPP
Crazy Bob NLI wrote:
2008-03-10 12:26:23 Yxxxx9740xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-10 12:26:23 Yxxxx9740xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-10 12:26:23 Yxxxx9740xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-10 12:26:23 Yxxxx9740xxx (*) Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-10 12:26:23 Yxxxx9740xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)

and some more:

2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-11 20:54:26 Yxxxx3240xxx (*) Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)

I've registered this note in 13/7/07 and it was the only one Yxxxx3240xxx Nxxxxx in that day. It isn't possible this hit.
Can someone tell me why these previous hits were moderated? They are fake hits because the user put in the comments N (Nova in portuguese that means new). As i wrote, my hit it isn't possible. The user JMPP keeps entering notes in series as you can see in the next list (all the notes with the same comments (N)):

2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:25:55 Yxxxx6487xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:24:06 Yxxxx0199xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:24:06 Yxxxx0199xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:24:06 Yxxxx0199xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:24:06 Yxxxx0199xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:24:06 Yxxxx0199xxx Nxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:22:01 Txxxx7635xxx Kxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:19:59 Mxxxx1336xxx Uxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:18:57 Uxxxx0733xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:18:57 Uxxxx0733xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:16:51 Xxxxx9987xxx Rxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:14:27 Uxxxx4457xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:14:27 Uxxxx4457xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:14:27 Uxxxx4457xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:14:27 Uxxxx4457xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:14:27 Uxxxx4457xxx Lxxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
2008-03-16 11:11:42 Zxxxx3867xxx Txxxxx Setubal ( Portugal, 2900-712 SETUBAL)
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Phaseolus wrote:
Why mentioning only 2 bills ?

Strangely, I count : 8 bills :

2008-03-16 10:24:15 Wien - Fribourg team nossi - tschaeggi 709 77
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 14
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13
+ 2008-02-12 16:13:44 Wien - Konnersreuth team nossi - tschaeggi 359 13


Furthermore, the "history" of Tschaeggi does not push me in believeing that these hits are interesting.

Because only this two hits remained interesting, the other ones are moderated and I did not think about them. Maybe this 7 (!)*) bills were part of a bundle he or somebody else got in vienna. Maybe he made a mistake by entering the city, where he got the notes? I don't know. With all you can see in the public there is not so much information to know what's happened. Therefore I can not see, what should be wrong with tschaeggi. Can you please tell me more. I saw he entered some notes in Fribourg today and one of them was mine. So what is wrong with it?

*) The 8th one has nothing to do with the other 7!


But, maybe there is a misunderstanding: I ask only for demoderating the Fribourg-Hit!
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@ nossi

Please let me for tell you I understand your frustration ; but, consider it's better to have one real hit (with me for example ! :wink: ) rather then 10 with a faker called Tschaeggi.

My elements are the following :

1. This post by Nerhzul announcing the deletion of 5364 notes from Tschaeggi in January 2007.
2. Tschaeggi profile has 22 hits, only 6 hits are still unmoderated ; and two out of these 6 hits, are with you.

Any idea how Tschaeggi could get in contact with your bills ? Are you posting your lists soemwhere else, ET for example ?
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roel96, 9710 notes
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Phaseolus wrote:
Any idea how Tschaeggi could get in contact with your bills ? Are you posting your lists soemwhere else, ET for example ?
No, I didn't post my list anywhere else. I have no swiss friends too, who could him told of our notes. All bills are bundles from viennese banks and we spend them at other banks in different districts in bundles of 100 pieces of course but I don't remember on what day.

The only idea I have would be this:
Tschaeggi got the bills in vienna (maybe at the famous "Silvesterpfad"), but did not enter them soon. He entered them now weeks later with a wrong destination to simulate an international hit. In that case we can be aware of some more hits. Do you see if there is any other viennese Tracker are involved? Or could you ask tschaeggi for explaination?

Maybe you are right and this is not a real hit with switzerland (our first and only one) :evil: :evil: :evil:
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But why did you moderate this hit: http://de.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=41277449?

Only the user is the same http://de.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=41093170, but it is different time, different km and a different district of vienna (see the comment)!

Please unmoderate it again. Correct viennese hits are interesting for all viennese powerusers.

Thx nossi
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The dates are very close. They are probably brought together to the bank and stayed together. For that reason it is moderated.

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BaliBennie wrote:The dates are very close. They are probably brought together to the bank and stayed together. For that reason it is moderated.
The bills did not travel together, not the whole way! It is the GSA, which always mix the notes even from very different banks! And different districts are important for our viennese games, as ErGo explained some weeks ago.

Please unmoderate!

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Post by presidente »

very strange combination for new italian user Gayspace
2008-03-16 16:25:34 :note-20:Pxxxx7163xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:25:25 :note-100: Pxxxx8063xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:25:13 :note-20: Pxxxx7163xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:23:51 :note-50: Pxxxx3161xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:23:30 :note-20: Pxxxx3163xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:23:18 :note-50: Pxxxx6317xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:23:08 :note-20: Pxxxx3612xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:22:54:note-20: Pxxxx3612xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:20:24 :note-20: Pxxxx3617xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:20:10 :note-10: Pxxxx3621xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:19:56 Pxxxx3613xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:19:21 Pxxxx4602xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:18:08 Pxxxx3612xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:17:51 Pxxxx3702xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:16:43 Pxxxx3702xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)
2008-03-16 16:15:22 Pxxxx3766xxx Gxxxxx Marcon ( Italia, 30020)

now In Italy it's easy only found :note-10: G/P
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The location is possibly fake too. "Marcon" looks an awful lot like "maricon."
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Post by presidente »

no Marcon is a little town near Venice

He inserted other notes only G/P for me is only an user to make advertising to an other WEB site http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?user=125487 (translation is " come to meat me at www....)
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