Suspicious notes and users

[erasmuston]

2009-09-09 08:34:05 5 EUR Hilvarenbeek - Etten-Leur - Etten-Leur Navione - ciby - robcie 36 536
2009-09-09 08:30:44 5 EUR Etten-Leur - Etten-Leur ciby - robcie 0 76

http://nl.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=44102344" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://nl.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=65085121" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

friendly hits?
same postal code
comparable incredible hit ratios

[claudio vda]

Hey, look at that

http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?c ... ser=143797" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

is it normal?

[presidente]

We have this hit
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=68637739" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and this was moderated in automatic:
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=68637783" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think it's better moderate also the first one

[erasmuston]

Schlaugenhamer http://nl.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=68647631" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; hits into series again
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx (*) Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)
2009-09-09 20:26:48 5 EURMxxxx5408xxx Uxxxxx Kalisz ( Flag for Polen Polen, 62-800)

[Gnaeus]

Something seems a bit suspicious about a hit with a time difference of 4 1/2 hours / 16 km.

But it shows up in the system because the second user happened to enter it after midnight...

This must be friendly (if we use the second user's own logic).

[presidente]

Something seems a bit suspicious about a hit with a time difference of 4 1/2 hours / 16 km.

But it shows up in the system because the second user happened to enter it after midnight...

This must be friendly (if we use the second user's own logic).

you are a comic!!!!


you explain me this:
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=68480515
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=68311736
....

and expecially this: Hit ratio: 1 : 44.96
why this other Wien users has this hit ratio http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?user=23476
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?user=27150
are they only unlucky or are playing an other game like me?

and after I explain you my hit!!!

I stopped to ask moderation of hits because exist users like you that consider good hits everything

I am happy of this reaction!!! means that having some doubts in some hits.. I am right!!

[klapotec]

and expecially this: Hit ratio: 1 : 44.96
why this other Wien users has this hit ratio http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?user=23476
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?user=27150
are they only unlucky or are playing an other game like me?

Gnaeus' hit ratio isn't unusual for a Viennese tracker that preferably tracks bundles of in the last two years.
Trackers like TriStar and wetterfrosch are neither that active now (TriStar entered most of his notes more than 3 years ago, those are much less likely to become hits now), nor have they tracked more than (which, being tracked less by the most active Viennese trackers, naturally have a worse hit ratio than ). So there.

The only game being played here is tracking notes - whether change from the supermarket or bundles from the bank does not matter - personal preferences aside.

[Gnaeus]

I am happy of this reaction!!! means that having some doubts in some hits.. I am right!!

Actually, I have no doubts about your hit at all -- I was being ironic.

you are a comic!!!!

Closer to the truth!!
I'm just trying to point out that short-time, unusual-distance hits can and do happen, even (*gasp*) outside of Vienna, Berlin, and Helmbrechts.

[presidente]

To close this discussion (may be many users have already the OO broken to read about...) I think Nerzhul in the english forum gave the good hint to everybody: all of us can give all type of suggestion

What EBT needs is a good metric for the "interestingness" of a hit. It should be as simple as possible, transparent, fair, universal and comprehensible. A score by which all hits can be ranked and filtered and whose outcome roughly represents the order a normal, unbiased user would apply.

This would solve some current design issues. We can't just add more and more filters to the UI, it's pretty crowded already. A BI-style "build your own report" approach is also not feasible.

Distance is one option, although a very bad one IMO. What makes a 100 day/100 km hit more interesting than a 2000 day/10 km?

Same with internationality, see examples claudio provided.

I'm open for all suggestions. This is really one of the long-term items on the todo list with no good solution.

and now let's go to play EBT!!!

[sen-chuan]

Are this hits for real? both fivers J/U?

http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66927885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66634488" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66112408" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (wisi?)

[klapotec]

Are this hits for real? both fivers J/U?

http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66927885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66634488" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66112408" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (wisi?)

Since the serial number and denomination are enough to identify a note, the short code IS NOT COMPARED when serial number and denomination match (i.e. the note is a hit). The shortcode wisi entered, for example, is L and not J.

L/J typos are among the most common ones.

[sen-chuan]

Are this hits for real? both fivers J/U?

http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66927885" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66634488" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=66112408" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (wisi?)

Since the serial number and denomination are enough to identify a note, the short code IS NOT COMPARED when serial number and denomination match (i.e. the note is a hit). The shortcode wisi entered, for example, is L and not J.

L/J typos are among the most common ones.

Let me understand: a note is good only when serial numbers match?
I read "Note Uxxxx1412xxx has been entered 2 times. This is a 5 Euro note from 2002. The short code is Jxxxxx.
This means that the note was printed at Banca d'Italia (Italy - Roma) for France."
If wisi made a mistake, in bona fides, he can always modify, such as his hitpartner, who is an active user. Very simple. Otherwise we have very strange statistics (for those who love them) or someone else could think in very weird stuff here.

That's my opinion.

[klapotec]

Let me understand: a note is good only when serial numbers match?

A hit is good when the serial number and denomination match.

I read "Note Uxxxx1412xxx has been entered 2 times. This is a 5 Euro note from 2002. The short code is Jxxxxx.
This means that the note was printed at Banca d'Italia (Italy - Roma) for France."
If wisi made a mistake, in bona fides, he can always modify, such as his hitpartner, who is an active user. Very simple.

That is not the entry that wisi made, but the one his hitpartner made. The link to a hit only shows the shortcode that has been entered by the last person to enter the note. So the one who should modify his entry would be wisi's hitpartner, not wisi.

And you wouldn't believe how many bona fide mistakes are made with entering short codes: I myself check my notes roughly every month, and usually I have 5 to 10 obvious mistakes to correct (like e.g. F/X instead of P/X, J/U instead of P/U, or x99 instead of x00 in the shortcode, etc.).

Otherwise we have very strange statistics (for those who love them) or someone else could think in very weird stuff here.
That's my opinion.

Those who love statistics usually are interested enough to correct any mistakes they can find, but many (especially small-time) users don't care about that enough really.

[yli]

a hit has two note ID's.

66112408 J/U note entered by LutGent
63396543 L/U note enterd by wisi

So, wisi didn't make the type.

Anyway, I don't think typos are suspicious

[maarsy]

http://nl.eurobilltracker.com/profile/? ... ser=142420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

mmm when i look at that and see to the hits with the second user ( its always pissible but still )