International M.Draghi and C. Lagarde BINGO 2024-04-11

Seltaeb · Post by **Seltaeb** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:22 pm

jack_isidore wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:31 pm
lmviterbo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:35 am
I am strongly suspicious about R010. I've never seen a picture of it. Furthermore, there's no gap in the serial numbering between R009 (up to X159 + some replacement notes up to X170) and R011 (X160-X169 + some replacement notes at X159 and X170). On Mr. Sohier's liste, he actually attributes R010/X the same value as all others R006-R011, which is intriguing.

As to S001, I haven't seen a picture either (nor any evidence in fact) but I suspect they're real, although rare. I never found one for sale, none was ever reported as a public serial, and I couldn't find a single one on public user stats (there's one exception: gabonik registered a S**153 — this, however, is most likely a simple transposition error, because S**153 are S010).
What makes me think that this a real plate, then? Here are all my reasons:
All S002/S I've seen in public records or in my hands are no lower than S**002, which makes me suspect that there are S**001, and these might be a test series printed on plate S001

The usually knowledgeable giulcenc claims there's S**001 and there is S001, although he doesn't claim anywhere that this plate and this serial number range are conneceted (table in pdf here).

Mr. Berriot quotes them at triple the price of the more common S/S plates.

Mr. Sohier lists them (although he still hasn't published his quotes for ).

Finally, there are at the moment 116 S001/S registered on EBT (source). This is not indicative of a real combination by itself. But here's how they are distributed: 48 in Italy, 33 in Austria, 15 in The Netherlands, 13 in Germany, the rest elsewhere (source). The obvious mistakes I can think of when one enters a S001/S are: the real denomination is , the real plate is S010, the real plate is S011. If these mistakes were happening equally, and all of the S001/S were mistakes, then, taking from the sum of notes per country registered up to now, the expected distribution would be something like 65 in Germany, 14 in Austria, 10 in Italy, 6 both in The Netherlands and in Belgium, and the rest elsewhere. Because this is very different from the current distribution, there's a slightly higher chance that there are real notes registered for this plate.

thank you for this elaborated summary. i think i will remove the R010 from my list. S001 still gets a chance after your pleading.

when i take some time for analyzing the ebt database it occurs, that there are some phantom-combinations in jackgaillard's list, just for instance there is no single entry for D/R030 F/R026 F/R029 G/R026 H/R029 or H/R047.

Tengo 3

F/R026

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lmviterbo · Post by **lmviterbo** » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:53 pm

Seltaeb wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:22 pm Tengo 3 F/R026

Pregunta retórica: venderías eso billete por 151.50 € (cotación sugerida por el Sr. Berriot)? No lo creo… Mí cotación provisoria, basado en la raridade real en EBT (con una fórumla que estoy elaborando), sería algo cómo 916.00 €. Más real, no?

Seltaeb · Post by **Seltaeb** » Wed Sep 26, 2018 2:23 am

lmviterbo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:53 pm
Seltaeb wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:22 pm Tengo 3 F/R026

Pregunta retórica: venderías eso billete por 151.50 € (cotación sugerida por el Sr. Berriot)? No lo creo… Mí cotación provisoria, basado en la raridade real en EBT (con una fórumla que estoy elaborando), sería algo cómo 916.00 €. Más real, no?

Pensaba que se ponía en duda la existencia de la plancha.

No lo vendería.

Jackgaillard · Post by **Jackgaillard** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:16 am

R047/H found by Elmo photo is here
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4788&start=3750#p1135461

R026/D found by seltaeb photo here
viewtopic.php?p=1167094#p1167235

R030/D found by thewise photo here
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=56515&start=30#p1154559
Jack

jack_isidore · Post by **jack_isidore** » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:55 pm

Jackgaillard wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:16 am R047/H found by Elmo photo is here
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=4788&start=3750#p1135461
R026/D found by seltaeb photo here
viewtopic.php?p=1167094#p1167235
R030/D found by thewise photo here
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=56515&start=30#p1154559
Jack

great, thank you very much. i think there is something wrong with the Annsi-List i reffered to. i checked also my rare entries and there was no 100e M007 ever registred in austria until sept 24th while i entered one some weeks before.
so sorry guys for my doubts and thanks for the pics.

Jackgaillard · Post by **Jackgaillard** » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:37 am

Nouveau

W005 W006 P008

V/M006

the_pooh_tripper · Post by **the_pooh_tripper** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 3:46 pm

MAJ 358

W/W002

Série Classique (2002)
10/10

BINGO

T

T/K007

X

X/P016 X/P017 X/P018 X/P019

X

X/E006 X/E007 X/E008 X/E009

Y

Y/N037

19/76

D

E

F

G

H

L

L/R024 L/R025

M

M/U023

P

P/R015 P/R016 P/R017 P/R023

S

S/J029 S/J030 S/J032 S/J033 S/J034 S/J035

U

U/L085 U/L086 U/L087

X

X/E008 X/E009 X/E010 OK

Y

37/71

D

D/R051

E

E/R052

F

G

H

H/R051 H/R052

L

P

P/R044 P/R045 P/R046 P/R047

S

S/J083 S/J084 S/J085 S/J091 S/J093 S/J095 S/J096 S/J097 S/J100 S/J102

V

V/M050 V/M051 V/M053 V/M055 V/M056 V/M058

X

X/E002 X/E003 X/E005

X

X/G042 X/G043 X/G044

X

X/R055 X/R058

Z

Z/T035 Z/T036 Z/T037 Z/T038 Z/T039

18/21

N

N/F007 N/F010 N/F011

V

V/M004 V/M005 V/M006 OK

X

X/R001 X/R002 X/R003 X/R006 X/R007 X/R008 X/R009 X/R011 OK

X

X/E002 X/E003 X/E004 X/E005 OK

6/7

T

Z/T002 Z/T003

X

X/E002 X/E003 X/E004 OK

X

X/R008

2/2

BINGO

N

N/F007 N/F008 OK

Série EUROPA

51/54

M/M001 M/M002 M/M003 OK

N/N004 N/N005 N/N006 N/N008 N/N010 N/N011 N/N014 N/N015 N/N017 (manque N/N009 N/N016)

S/S001 S/S002 S/S003 S/S006 OK

T/T001 T/T002 T/T003 T/T004 T/T005 OK

U/U002 U/U003 U/U004 U/U005 U/U006 U/U007 U/U008 OK

V/V001 V/V002 V/V003 V/V004 V/V005 V/V006 V/V007 V/V008 V/V009 V/V010 V/V011 OK

W/W001 W/W002 OK

Y/Y001 Y/Y002 Y/Y003 Y/Y004 Y/Y005(manque Y/Y006)

Z/Z003 Z/Z004 Z/Z005 Z/Z006 Z/Z009 OK

62/63

E/E001 E/E002 E/E003 E/004 E/E005 E/E006 E/E007 E/E008 OK

N/N002 N/N005 N/N006 N/N008 N/N010 N/N011 N/N012 N/N015 (manque N/N013)

P/P001 P/P002 P/P003 P/P004 P/P005 P/P006 OK

S/S002 S/S003 S/S004 OK

T/T001 T/T002 T/T003 T/T004 OK

U/U001 U/U002 U/U003 U/U004 U/U005 U/U006 U/U007 U/U008 U/U009 U/U010 U/U011 U/U012 U/U013 OK

V/V001 V/V002 V/V003 V/V004 V/V005 V/V006 V/V007 V/V008 OK

X/X001 X/X002 X/X003 OK

Y/Y001 Y/Y002 Y/Y003 Y/Y004 Y/Y005 Y/Y006 Y/Y007 Y/Y008 Y/Y009 OK

69/79

E/E001 E/E002 E/E003 OK

M/M001 M/M003 M/M004(manque M/M002)

N/N001 N/N007 N/N008 (manque N/N004 N/N005)

R/R001 R/R002 R/R003 R/R004 R/R005 R/R006 R/R007 R/R008 R/R010 R/R012 R/R013 OK

S/S003 S/S004 S/S005 S/S006 S/S007 S/S008 S/S009 S/S010 S/S011 S/S012 S/S013 S/S014 S/S015 S/S017 S/S018 (manque S/S001 S/S016 S/S019)

U/U001 U/U002 U/U003 U/U004 U/U005 U/U006 U/U007 U/U008 U/U009 U/U010 U/U011 U/U012 U/U013 U/U014 U/U015 U/U016 U/U017 U/U018 U/U019 U/U020 U/U021 U/U022 U/U023 U/U024 U/U025 (manque U/U026)

V/V001 V/V002 V/V003 (manque V/V004 V/V005)

W/W001 W/W002 OK

X/X001 X/X002 X/X003 OK

Z/Z001 (manque Z/Z002)

84/116

E/E004 E/E005 E/E006 E/E007 E/E008 E/E009 E/E010 E/E011 E/E012 E/E013 E/E014 E/E015 (manque E/E001 E/E002 E/E003)

M/M001 M/M004 (manque M/M002 M/M003 M/M005 M/M006 M/M007 M/M008 M/M009)

P/P001 P/P002 P/P003 P/P004 P/P006 P/P007 P/P008 P/P009 (manque P/P005)

R/R002 R/R003 R/R004 R/R005 R/R008 R/R010 R/R011 R/R012 R/R013 R/R014 R/R015 R/R016 R/R021 R/R023 R/R027 (manque R/R001 R/R020 R/R022 R/R026)

S/S002 S/S003 S/S004 S/S005 S/S006 S/S007 S/S009 S/S011 S/S015 (manque S/S001 S/S008 S/S010 S/S012 S/S014 S/S016 S/S017 S/S018 S/S021)

U/U001 U/U002 U/U003 U/U004 U/U005 U/U006 U/U007 U/U008 U/U009 U/U010 U/U011 U/U013 U/U014 U/U015 U/U016 U/U017 U/U018 U/U019(manque U/U012)

V/V004 V/V005 V/V006 V/V008 (manque V/V001 V/V002 V/V003 V/V009 V/V010 V/V011 V/V012 V/V013)

W/W001 W/W002 W/W003 W/W004 W/W005 W/W006 W/W007 W/W008 W/W009 W/W010 W/W011 OK

Z/Z002 Z/Z004 Z/Z005 Z/Z007 Z/Z020 (manque Z/Z003)

358/500

TheUndertaker · Post by **TheUndertaker** » Mon Oct 01, 2018 6:31 pm

(Hope this is allowed

)
I offer those bills for other bills from the first series (mostly for duisenberg bills)
20€ D R027
20€ Y N007
50€ F R052
50€ G G049
Please write me a Short pn , ill keep them then

LArdennais · Post by **LArdennais** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:21 pm

BINGOOOOOOOOOOOOO !

T/K007 OK

X/E006 - E007 - E008 - E009 OK

X/P016 - P017 - P018 - P019 OK

Y/N037 OK

10 / 10.

D/R027 - R028 - R031 OK (manquent R026 - R029 - R030)

E/R017 - R026 - R027 - R028 - R029 - R030 - R031 - R032 OK (manque R020)

F/R031 OK (manquent R026 - R027 - R029 - R030)

G/R027 - R031 OK (manquent R026 - R030)

H/R027 - R028 - R031 OK (manquent R026 - R029)

L/R023 - R024 - R025 - R026 - R027 - R029 - R030 - R031 OK (manquent R015 - R020)

M/U020 - U021 - U022 - U023 - U024 - U025 OK

P/R015 - R016 - R017 - R018 - R019 - R020 - R021 - R023 - R024 - R029 - R030 - R031 OK (manque R032)

S/J029 - J030 - J031 - J032 - J033 - J034 - J035 - J036 OK

U/L085 - L086 - L087 - L088 OK

X/E008 - E009 - E010 OK

Y/N007 OK

59 / 74.

D/R051 OK (manque R049)

E/R047 - R051 - R052 OK (manque R048)

F/R049 - R051 OK

G/R049 - R051 OK

H/R051 - R052 OK (manquent R047 - R049)

L/R047 - R048 - R049 - R051 OK

P/R044 - R045 - R046 - R047 - R048 - R049 OK

S/J079 - J083 - J084 - J085 - J086 - J087 - J088 - J089 - J090 - J091 - J092 - J093 - J095 - J096 - J097 - J098 - J100 - J102 OK

V/M050 - M051 - M052 - M053 - M054 - M055 - M056 - M057 - M058 OK

X/G041 - G042 - G043 - G044 OK

X/E001 - E002 - E003 - E004 - E005 OK

X/R055 - R056 - R058 - R059 (manque R057)

Z/T034 - T035 - T036 - T037 - T038 - T039 OK

66 / 71.

N/F006 - F007 OK (manquent F010 - F011 - F012)

V/M004 - M005 OK (manquent M006 - M007)

X/R001 - R002 - R003 - R006 - R007 - R008 - R009 - R011 OK (manque R010)

X/E003 - E004 OK (manque E005)

15 / 22.

X/R008 - R009 OK

X/E002 - E003 OK (manque E004)

Z/T002 - T003 OK

6 / 7.

N/F007 - F008 OK

2 / 2.

EUROPA

M/M001 - M002 - M003 OK

N/N004 - N005 - N006 - N008 - N009 - N010 - N011 - N014 - N015 - N016 - N017 OK

S/S001 - S002 - S003 - S006 OK

T/T001 - T002 - T003 - T004 - T005 OK

U/U002 - U003 - U004 - U005 - U006 - U007 - U008 OK

V/V001 - V002 - V003 - V004 - V005 - V006 - V007 - V008 - V009 - V010 - V011 OK

W/W002 OK

WA396 / W001C1 NEW

Y/Y001 - Y002 - Y003 - Y004 - Y005 - Y006 OK

Z/Z003 - Z004 - Z005 - Z006 - Z009 OK

54 / 54.

EUROPA

E/E001 - E002 - E003 - E004 - E005 - E006 - E007 - E008 OK

N/N002 - N005 - N006 - N008 - N010 - N011 - N012 - N015 OK (manque N013)

P/P001 - P002 - P003 - P004 - P005 - P006 OK

S/S002 - S003 - S004 OK

T/T001 - T002 - T003 - T004 OK

U/U001 - U002 - U003 - U004 - U005 - U006 - U007 - U008 - U009 - U010 - U011 - U013 OK

V/V001 - V002 - V003 - V004 - V005 - V006 - V007 - V008 OK

X/X001 - X002 - X003 OK

Y/Y001 - Y002 - Y003 - Y004 - Y005 - Y006 - Y007 - Y008 - Y009 OK

62 / 63.

EUROPA

E/E001 - E002 - E003 OK

M/M001 - M002 - M003 OK (manque M004)

N/N001 - N007 - N008 OK (manquent N004 - N005)

R/R001 - R002 - R003 - R004 - R005 - R006 - R007 - R008 - R010 - R012 - R013 OK

S/S001 - S003 - S004 - S005 - S006 - S007 - S008 - S009 - S010 - S011 - S012 - S013 - S014 - S015 OK (manquent S016 - S017 - S018 - S019 - S021)

U/U001 - U002 - U003 - U004 - U005 - U006 - U007 - U008 - U009 - U010 - U011 - U012 - U013 - U014 - U015 - U016 - U017 - U018 - U019 - U020 - U021 - U022 - U023 - U024 - U025 - U026 OK

V/V001 - V002 - V003 - V004 OK (manque V005)

W/W001 - W002 OK

X/X001 - X002 - X003 OK

Z/Z001 - Z002 OK

71 / 80.

EUROPA

E/E002 - E003 - E004 - E005 - E006 - E007 - E008 - E009 - E010 - E012 - E013 - E014 - E015 OK (manquent E001 - E011)

M/M004 OK (manquent M001 - M002 - M003 - M005 - M006 - M007 - M008)

P/P001 - P002 - P003 - P004 - P005 - P006 - P007 - P008 - P009 OK

R/R002 - R003 - R004 - R005 - R008 - R010 - R011 - R012 - R013 - R014 - R015 - R016 - R021 - R023 - R026 OK (manquent R001 - R022 - R027)

S/S002 - S003 - S004 - S005 - S006 - S008 - S009 - S010 - S011 - S012 OK (manquent S001 - S007 - S014 - S015 - S016 - S017 - S018 - S021)

U/U002 - U003 - U004 - U005 - U006 - U007 - U008 - U009 - U010 - U011 - U012 - U013 - U014 - U015 - U016 - U017 - U018 - U019 OK (manque U001)

V/V003 - V004 - V005 - V006 - V008 OK (manquent V001 - V002 - V009 - V010 - V011 - V012 - V013)

W/W001 - W002 - W003 - W004 - W005 - W006 - W007 - W008 - W009 - W010 - W011 OK

Z/Z002 - Z003 - Z004 - Z005 - Z007 - Z020 OK

88 / 116.

=> 433 / 499 combinaisons trouvées (10+59+66+15+6+2++54+62+71+88)

Autrement dit : 9 + 9 + 10 + 9 | 4 + 12 + 13 + 4 + 3 + 1 = 74/74 ! BINGO

Merci, Jack' !

Kleman · Post by **Kleman** » Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:34 pm

Ha il était temps

J'en ai même eu une série neuve en France, dans une machine sympathique

Jackgaillard · Post by **Jackgaillard** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:37 am

Jackgaillard wrote: ↑Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:37 am Nouveau
W005 W006 P008
V/M006

+

Y005

lmviterbo · Post by **lmviterbo** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:09 am

Au 1er Octobre, Mr. Sohier a relevé

S001/S de son liste.

Jackgaillard · Post by **Jackgaillard** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:51 pm

lmviterbo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 11:09 am Au 1er Octobre, Mr. Sohier a relevé S001/S de son liste.

what about

R010/X

lmviterbo · Post by **lmviterbo** » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:16 pm

Jackgaillard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:51 pm

what about

R010/X[/quote]

R/X is still there, still quoted the same collector's value as R006 through R009 and R011. Not sure if he reads his forum thread. No idea if anyone has contacted him about his subject. I haven't.