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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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klapotec wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:48 pm
Vunono wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:32 pm
I think that their hit ratio doesn't look suspicious to moderators living in Finland, Austria or Benelux...
If anyone wants to become a hit moderator, send a mail to contact@eurobilltracker.com or send a forum message to gergapsek (head of the support team). Currently we only have hit moderators from Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, and Slovenia, so we could definitely use some people from other countries.
I don't know, maybe a Spanish moderator would consider suspicious anyone with more than three hits a year :lol:
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Vunono wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:36 pm
klapotec wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:48 pm
Vunono wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:32 pm
I think that their hit ratio doesn't look suspicious to moderators living in Finland, Austria or Benelux...
If anyone wants to become a hit moderator, send a mail to contact@eurobilltracker.com or send a forum message to gergapsek (head of the support team). Currently we only have hit moderators from Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, and Slovenia, so we could definitely use some people from other countries.
I don't know, maybe a Spanish moderator would consider suspicious anyone with more than three hits a year :lol:
But a Spanish moderator would know what's about to be expected, and what is contrived. With such users as those two, moderation can be a lot of work...
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am
Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
GWR7007 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm
ErGo wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:23 pm
No worry, we didn't:
2llsll (174990): 26524 notes deleted
It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.
For avoiding it to be automatically moderated by the system, this morning they have obtained a new hit together with another bill that was entered the same date and place as the one that they have obtained yesterday night... forcely, these two bills have "travelled" together, how could anybody still doubt that these two users are arranging their hits in common? :?
One day after, a new hit this morning in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... the bill was entered almost at the same time that the two previous ones, but in this case is coming from the city of Badalona.

This week, all the roads lead to Torredembarra... :x
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Kleman wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:22 pm
ErGo wrote:
Sat May 29, 2021 5:02 pm
And here we go:

Cancerbero (205350): 2664 notes deleted
Congratulations !
It's always great to win against cancer !
Unfortunately, you can never lower your guard because of the risk of metastasis: plenty of new series and some hits in series during the weekend.

2021-06-12 03:14:46 5 EURNxxxx8062xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:14:46 5 EURNxxxx8062xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:14:46 5 EURNxxxx8062xxx (+) Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:14:46 5 EURNxxxx8062xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:14:46 5 EURNxxxx8062xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)

2021-06-12 03:48:26 5 EURNxxxx8069xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:48:26 5 EURNxxxx8069xxx (+) Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:48:26 5 EURNxxxx8069xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-12 03:48:26 5 EURNxxxx8069xxx Nxxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)

2021-06-13 01:02:23 10 EURTxxxx0030xxx Txxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-13 01:02:23 10 EURTxxxx0030xxx Txxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-13 01:02:23 10 EURTxxxx0030xxx (+) Txxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-13 01:02:23 10 EURTxxxx0030xxx Txxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)
2021-06-13 01:02:23 10 EURTxxxx0030xxx Txxxxx Arequipa ( Flag for Perú Perú, 04001)


Actually, "Cancerbero" means in Spanish "Goalkeeper" or "Cerberus" (a mitologic dog with three heads)... so nothing to do with "Cáncer".
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Oliverve wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:15 pm
Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am
Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
GWR7007 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm
ErGo wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:23 pm
No worry, we didn't:
2llsll (174990): 26524 notes deleted
It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.
For avoiding it to be automatically moderated by the system, this morning they have obtained a new hit together with another bill that was entered the same date and place as the one that they have obtained yesterday night... forcely, these two bills have "travelled" together, how could anybody still doubt that these two users are arranging their hits in common? :?
One day after, a new hit this morning in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... the bill was entered almost at the same time that the two previous ones, but in this case is coming from the city of Badalona.

This week, all the roads lead to Torredembarra... :x
One more hit in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... most of them were registered in the city of Reus one week ago.
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Oliverve wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 am

Actually, "Cancerbero" means in Spanish "Goalkeeper" or "Cerberus" (a mitologic dog with three heads)... so nothing to do with "Cáncer".

So there's still two heads to cut.... 8O
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Kleman wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:55 pm
Oliverve wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:00 am

Actually, "Cancerbero" means in Spanish "Goalkeeper" or "Cerberus" (a mitologic dog with three heads)... so nothing to do with "Cáncer".

So there's still two heads to cut.... 8O
It is a possibility: once all the current series that he has entered for the second time will be deleted, it is possible that he will still try it one more time with his last head alive... :lol:
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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Oliverve wrote:
Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:20 am
Oliverve wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:15 pm
Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am
Oliverve wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
GWR7007 wrote:
Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm

It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.
For avoiding it to be automatically moderated by the system, this morning they have obtained a new hit together with another bill that was entered the same date and place as the one that they have obtained yesterday night... forcely, these two bills have "travelled" together, how could anybody still doubt that these two users are arranging their hits in common? :?
One day after, a new hit this morning in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... the bill was entered almost at the same time that the two previous ones, but in this case is coming from the city of Badalona.

This week, all the roads lead to Torredembarra... :x
One more hit in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... most of them were registered in the city of Reus one week ago.
Tonight, one more hit in Torredembarra between masalla10 and 2llsll... this one comes from the city of Cambrils, where one week ago there was also a hail of hits between them... what a coincidence! :x

During the last six days, the user masalla10 has almost entered a single bill in the town of Torredembarra and he has gotten everyday a hit with the user 2llsll, any of them together:

Date km days
2021-06-13 21:45:55 20 EUR Cambrils - Torredembarra Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 29 25
2021-06-12 23:07:16 10 EUR Reus - Torredembarra Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 24 7
2021-06-11 10:32:28 10 EUR Badalona - Torredembarra Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 76 7
2021-06-10 10:10:28 5 EUR Reus - Torredembarra Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 24 2
2021-06-09 20:02:45 10 EUR Playa de las Américas - Torredembarra - Torredembarra Flag for España Flag for España Flag for España VolkerW - 2llsll - masalla10 2194 2090

The previous week a similar hail of hits took place in the town of Cambrils:

Date km days
2021-05-28 22:32:31 10 EUR Reus - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 11 97
2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EUR Riudecols - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 13 25
2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EUR El Vendrell - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 43 24
2021-05-25 20:57:20 10 EUR Riudecols - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 13 23
2021-05-25 20:54:33 20 EUR Cambrils - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 0 26
2021-05-25 20:53:34 10 EUR Reus - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 9 95
2021-05-24 21:26:40 5 EUR El Vendrell - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 43 45
2021-05-21 21:56:46 20 EUR El Vendrell - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 43 111
2021-05-19 20:55:47 20 EUR Cambrils - Cambrils Flag for España Flag for España 2llsll - masalla10 0 48

After having obtained 487 hits in common (... and counting!), seeing how they intentionally enter the bills in separate days on the same location for not coinciding severals hits and being 2llsll is a proven faker(26.524 bills deleted last December) that used to introduce plenty of fake series... is there still anybody who has not realised that these two guys (if they are two in reality) are disrupting the statistics of hits in different cities and towns of the region of Tarragona and inderectly affecting to the statistics of hits in Spain?
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2021-06-14 22:43:06 5 EUR Kaunas - Tulln Flag for Litauen Flag for Österreich negative - b_a_king 906 1032
2021-06-14 22:43:06 5 EUR Vilnius - Tulln Flag for Litauen Flag for Österreich siriusLT - b_a_king 948 691
2021-06-14 22:42:50 5 EUR Vilnius - Tulln Flag for Litauen Flag for Österreich siriusLT - b_a_king 948 672
2021-06-14 22:42:22 5 EUR Kaunas - Tulln Flag for Litauen Flag for Österreich AGX - b_a_king 906 1159

b_a_king's secret?
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

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simpsonspedia.net wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:07 am
b_a_king's secret?
Maybe its a hint for cash movement between national banks? Lets see if more hits with :flag-lt: are coming...
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No hits yet, but I have been seeing a lot of Irish notes recently, here in Belgium.
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ErGo wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:00 pm
simpsonspedia.net wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:07 am
b_a_king's secret?
Maybe its a hint for cash movement between national banks? Lets see if more hits with :flag-lt: are coming...
Actually, not between the central banks, but in another organization (structure). Big security company BRINKS started to work in Lithuania last year. Knowing, that big percentage of cash is moved by security companies (G4S, EuroCASH and now BRINKS) there is a possibility, that some cash was taken from internal stock of pan-European level, and not from central Bank of Lithuania, or Austria. (The question remains - why move cash so far away?)
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