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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by Ashido44 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:28 am

No, no, no. I think you are confusing my post with my signature.

What I´ve report is a suspicious entering of h.i.n.t.i : notes from the same bundle on several dates and locations. And whatever he says, the facts and statistics are against him. Finding some notes from the same bundle in two cities and on three days is nearly impossible.

As long as I know, Armand28 does not mix bundles. It can be that he has changed his way recently and I didn´t noticed. But so far I´ve nothing suspicious to report about him. I can only regret that he does not resquest moderation for the suspicious hits with h.i.n.t.i.

I forget something: LOCATION FAKING IS NO SMALL DEAL!!!!

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Die Bündelmischer, die meisten Belgier sind, haben gar keine Ahnung, was der EBT-Geist ist
The mixers of bundles, which are most of them belgians, don't have any clue, what's the EBT spirit
Les mélangeurs de liasses, belges pour la plupart, n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'est l'esprit EBT
De Bundelsmixers, die meeste Belgen zijn, hebben geen idee wat de EBT-geest is

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by nossi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:51 am

Ashido44 wrote:
Finding some notes from the same bundle in two cities and on three days is nearly impossible.
How do you know (?) the hits are from the SAME bundle?`
Which location would be the right one, like you think?
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by Ashido44 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:20 am

Die Bündelmischer, die meisten Belgier sind, haben gar keine Ahnung, was der EBT-Geist ist
The mixers of bundles, which are most of them belgians, don't have any clue, what's the EBT spirit
Les mélangeurs de liasses, belges pour la plupart, n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'est l'esprit EBT
De Bundelsmixers, die meeste Belgen zijn, hebben geen idee wat de EBT-geest is

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by nossi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:23 am

*) These Hits hinti got in Kermis not in La Calamine!

So jetzt in Deutsch, weil mein Englisch nicht mehr reicht: Armand kann seine in verschiedenen Orten gefunden Scheine auch getrennt zur Bank gebracht haben. Banken räumen von Zeit zu Zeit die Kassa aus und bündeln die Scheine zu 100 Stück. Darauf hast du weder als Abgeber noch als Holer irgendeinen Einfluß.

Für mich stellt sich die Sache so dar: Hinti war Mitte November in Kermis und holte 1 oder mehrere Bündel von der Bank. In diesem Bündel waren Scheine von Armand, die dieser in verschiedenen Orten und zu verschiedenen Zeiten erhalten hat. Eine Woche später war er in Solingen, holte wieder Scheine von der Bank und Mitte Dezember war er wieder in Kermis mit dem gleichen Ergebnis wie ein Monat davor. Da hinti beruflich unterwegs ist, nichts besonderes.

Übrigens hat auch an-148 Scheine von Armand aus verschiedenen Orten alle in La Calamine gefunden. Also das gleiche wie hinti. Ob diese Scheine von Armand dort abgegeben wurden, oder ob er sie woanders abgegeben hat und von der Bank nach La Calamine versandt wurden, weiß ich natürlich nicht.
Auch muss Armand seine Scheine nicht persönlich nach Solingen gebracht haben. In 25 Tagen können die 3 auch auf anderen Weg dorthin gelangt sein (z.B. durch eine dritte Person, die kein EBTler ist).
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by groentje » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:07 pm

La Calamine and Kelmis are one and the same, just the French and German names for the place.

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by Ashido44 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:40 pm

Ja ja ich weiss wie die Banken in Belgien laufen. Wenn Sie nicht verstehen wollen, dass h.i.n.t.i gefälscht hat, bringe ich keine weitere Fakten mehr. Aber... ich habe schon genug bewiesen. Brauche ich nicht weiter zu debattieren.

Den cleaning Girls wünsche ich viel Spaß beim reinigen! :mrgreen:
Die Bündelmischer, die meisten Belgier sind, haben gar keine Ahnung, was der EBT-Geist ist
The mixers of bundles, which are most of them belgians, don't have any clue, what's the EBT spirit
Les mélangeurs de liasses, belges pour la plupart, n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'est l'esprit EBT
De Bundelsmixers, die meeste Belgen zijn, hebben geen idee wat de EBT-geest is

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by nossi » Thu Dec 14, 2017 1:55 pm

Ashido44 wrote:Ja ja ich weiss wie die Banken in Belgien laufen. Wenn Sie nicht verstehen wollen, dass h.i.n.t.i gefälscht hat, bringe ich keine weitere Fakten mehr. Aber... ich habe schon genug bewiesen. Brauche ich nicht weiter zu debattieren.

Den cleaning Girls wünsche ich viel Spaß beim reinigen! :mrgreen:
hinti fälscht nicht! Punkt! Und bewiesen ist gar nichts!
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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by klapotec » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:45 pm

Ashido44 wrote:gefälscht
to get the discussion(?) back to English: please do distinguish location-faking from bill-faking, these two are not the same and the latter is a much more serious accusation

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by hinti111 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:16 pm

Ok guys
...due to the ongoing discussions :( I think that it is necessary to make the story of my Kelmis-bills public:

On 12.11. I have been at Kelmis / La Calamine ( and also two other places in Belgium ) as well as at different places in NRW/Germany.
On the same evening I entered the Kelmis-bills and - as hoped - I got a bunch of hits and many more automatically moderated hits with Armand28.
During the following week, allways on evenings, I entered some bills from different Volksbank-ATM`s, but not all.
After my return to home on 17.11. I entered all other bills like from Hilden, Wuppertal, Solingen, Remscheid and others.

After entering bills from Solingen, surprisingly there where 7 hits ( 4 of them moderated automatically ) with Armand28 8O . Of course it seemed very strange also to me, also because the time range was more or less the same one than with the hits from Kelmis.
So for me I identified two possibilities:
a) through which way ever those 7 bills came from Kelmis to Solingen within around 2-3 weeks
b) it was a mistake from me laying those 7 bills back into a wrong bag ( I entered the bills, mostly lieing in the hotel-bed, into my Ipad and around me different bunches / bags of different cities )
Who knows what is right ? I not. Both is possible.

But one thing is very sure: I`m not so stupid and do location-faking with bills of which with a high percentage it could be a hit !

As an irony one day later I had with bills from Remscheid another hit with Armand28, but with a completely different time range ( 420 days ) so that it is hopefully out of any discussion.

Well, this is my "case" Kelmis ! I`m looking forward to my next business trip to Köln where I for sure make another visit to Kelmis / La Calamine :lol:

@Ashido44: Couriously - if I would use the same settings in EBT than you
https://de.eurobilltracker.com/profile/ ... ser=162550
I would not have any problem, no one would have any problem :roll:
But I do NOT have anything to hide. You :?:

@Mrs. Facebook Lover: no one is naive who sees EBT as a game, which shall make fun and joy to us. It is fun when finding hits ( and possibly not only after entering 500 bills ) and seeing that bills turn up at one other place. The more distance the nicer.
EBT will not get killed so soon as long as there are not too much of such "fun brakes" "killjoys" than you ( sorry that I have to say this :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: ) and the other mentioned person.

I will not make any other comments and will try not to look into this forum anymore.
Lucky EBT`ers who do not use this forum - I envy them !!!! Like Armand28.

@Administrators of this forum: I ask for deletion of my forum acount "hinti111" ! Unhappily I cannot find the way how to do it myself :(

Friends and friendly persons can contact me as usual or under the mentioned email adress of my EBT account.

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by joergb30 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:51 pm

A bunch of "friendly hits" with dornbusch2010 again:

2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURSxxxx1103xxx (+) Sxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURTxxxx3127xxx (+) Txxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURSxxxx7368xxx (+) Sxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURZxxxx6222xxx (+) Zxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURUxxxx7541xxx (+) Uxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURSxxxx8485xxx (+) Sxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURNxxxx1127xxx (+) Nxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURNxxxx5027xxx (+) Nxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURVxxxx8354xxx (+) Vxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:20 5 EURVxxxx9980xxx (*) Vxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)

2017-12-16 23:45:14 5 EURSxxxx8319xxx (*) Sxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:14 5 EURVxxxx5315xxx (+) Vxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:14 5 EURTxxxx9070xxx (*) Txxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)
2017-12-16 23:45:14 5 EURZxxxx5642xxx (*) Zxxxxx Kassel ( Flag for Deutschland Deutschland, 34125)

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by Ashido44 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:05 am

hinti111 wrote: So for me I identified two possibilities:
a) through which way ever those 7 bills came from Kelmis to Solingen within around 2-3 weeks
b) it was a mistake from me laying those 7 bills back into a wrong bag ( I entered the bills, mostly lieing in the hotel-bed, into my Ipad and around me different bunches / bags of different cities )
Who knows what is right ? I not. Both is possible.
If it wasn´t on purpose, the answer B is the most possible. (Answer A is nearly impossible: that´s why you´ve been report)
But one thing is very sure: I`m not so stupid and do location-faking with bills of which with a high percentage it could be a hit !
"Who dares, wins." And I have already read how brazenly you are.
@Ashido44: Couriously - if I would use the same settings in EBT than you

I would not have any problem, no one would have any problem :roll:
But I do NOT have anything to hide. You :?:
That´s right! I´ve a lot to hide. Something called privacy! And I want to protect me from the easy-hits-trackers like you. No EBTer need to know where I exactly get my notes and where I spend them. I´m doing this way for 3 years and I don´t have any suspicious/friendly/or whatever strange hits anymore. You should try it. For sure, I do not write any comments for the same time.

And I haven´t need/use your Hitlist to spot and prove your suspicious entering. Also you can hide it. Even without I will find out if you fake...


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Die Bündelmischer, die meisten Belgier sind, haben gar keine Ahnung, was der EBT-Geist ist
The mixers of bundles, which are most of them belgians, don't have any clue, what's the EBT spirit
Les mélangeurs de liasses, belges pour la plupart, n'ont aucune idée de ce qu'est l'esprit EBT
De Bundelsmixers, die meeste Belgen zijn, hebben geen idee wat de EBT-geest is

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by placebo » Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:58 pm

Hit in series for Lithuanian user AGX:

https://de.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=181951229

2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:31 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (+) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx (*) Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)
2017-12-15 14:51:30 50 EURPxxxx9312xxx Pxxxxx Kaunas ( Flag for Litauen Litauen, 44333)

All these banknotes were entered with a comment "SWED bank ATM, AKROPOLIS supermarket, brand NEW".
What's the chance to get a bundle of banknotes in series from ATM with half of them already entered by another user almost two months ago?
As far as I remember there was one strange hit with this user already ( https://de.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=176933717 ) where he has probably entered too many banknotes from the series and later on the other user which is an honest player got "AGX banknote" with a pack of uncirculated banknotes from Lithuanian Bank.

Please investigate this. Thanks.

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by HBoZ » Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:26 am

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by erasmuston » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:12 pm

LionelE has 6 hits, all with Fumelois
https://nl.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=182266929

2017-12-26 19:29:56 20 EUR Fumel - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 107 681
2017-12-26 19:29:56 20 EUR Fumel - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 107 639
2017-12-26 19:29:56 20 EUR Fumel - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 107 631
2017-12-26 19:29:56 20 EUR Fumel - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 107 548
2017-12-26 19:29:56 20 EUR Biarritz - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 237 501
2013-07-14 19:53:33 50 EUR Fumel - Toulouse Fumelois - LionelE 100 1

please check

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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Post by erasmuston » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:21 pm

Friends? location faking?


2017-12-27 14:17:09 50 EUR Frankfurt am Main - Barcelona FFMMIKE - Flachschippe 1091 111
https://nl.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=182287215
2017-12-27 14:14:19 100 EUR Frankfurt am Main - Palma de Mallorca FFMMIKE - Flachschippe 1264 111
https://nl.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=182287190

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