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Post by HNL » Fri May 16, 2003 11:46 pm

Fons wrote:Nice banner, but maybe you must write www.eurobilltracker.com bigger.
No, it's just nice, the URL is linked on the banner.

Emmem, is it possible to make the banner in different languages?

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Post by micro » Fri May 16, 2003 11:51 pm

emmem wrote:Time to reanimate this topic with another banner I made :)
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Nice idea but correct English would be "a euro bill" instead of "an euro bill"... :oops:

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Post by emmem » Sat May 17, 2003 12:17 am

HNL wrote:
Fons wrote:Nice banner, but maybe you must write www.eurobilltracker.com bigger.
No, it's just nice, the URL is linked on the banner.

Emmem, is it possible to make the banner in different languages?
I tried a bigger www.eurobilltracker.com but it dint feel right.

Of course it is possible to make the banner in different languages. For those who know how to use GIF editors here's the blank version.
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I also gave the Dutch translation a try. But it's not as good as the English version if you ask me.
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micro wrote: Nice idea but correct English would be "a euro bill" instead of "an euro bill"... :oops:
No. The correct writing should be An Euro bill. That's what my spelling checker accepts. I chose to remove the space and use a capital letter for Bill and Tracker because that's what makes up EuroBillTracker.
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Post by micro » Sat May 17, 2003 1:46 am

emmem wrote:
micro wrote: Nice idea but correct English would be "a euro bill" instead of "an euro bill"... :oops:
No. The correct writing should be An Euro bill. That's what my spelling checker accepts. I chose to remove the space and use a capital letter for Bill and Tracker because that's what makes up EuroBillTracker.
I don't know what language your spell checker checks ;)

The Oxford Guide to English Usage says about "a or an" (page 16):
"Be guided by the pronunciation.
Examples: a UN resolution, an SOS, ..."

So since "euro" is pronounced like "yooro" it should be "a euro".

The Chicago Manual of Style (a 750-page American usage book) says in chapter 6.49: "a euphonious word, a union".

I searched Google for "a european" (with the quotation marks) and got 1.2 million results (with well-known book publishers among them), while "an european" (also with quotation marks) gave only 70000.

Sorry about my smart-ass behavior but I think on a website and forum about the euro this single spelling rule should be used correctly :?

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Post by K3lvin » Sat May 17, 2003 4:08 am

micro wrote: Nice idea but correct English would be "a euro bill" instead of "an euro bill"... :oops:
That's correct, it depeds on pronunciation, not on how it's written.
I would also use the word 'note' instead of 'bill'. To me, bill means something you must pay (and note something you pay with).
micro wrote: Sorry about my smart-ass behavior but I think on a website and forum about the euro this single spelling rule should be used correctly :?
It's good you brought it up, I hate to see bad language on websites ect. (excluding my posts :twisted: )

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Post by Fons » Sat May 17, 2003 2:05 pm

micro wrote:
emmem wrote:Time to reanimate this topic with another banner I made :)
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Nice idea but correct English would be "a euro bill" instead of "an euro bill"... :oops:
It's correct when it's 'an euro bill'
If the word after a begins with a, e, y, u, i or o than you must write an in case of a.

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Post by avij » Sat May 17, 2003 2:31 pm

Fons wrote:It's correct when it's 'an euro bill'
If the word after a begins with a, e, y, u, i or o than you must write an in case of a.
No, it's not correct, read Micro's post from above. The key to "a or an" is how you pronounce the word, not how it's written. For another example, consider "an honest person". Try saying that out loud.

Yea, it's weird, but that's the way it is. Blame the English.

Please note that even though "euro" might be pronounced with a starting vowel in your native language (as is the case in Finnish), this is English we're talking about, and the pronounciation rules are somewhat different.

Oh yes, thank you emmem for a new banner, looks nice :)

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Post by BogPoet » Sat May 17, 2003 3:32 pm

It should be "a euro". The spelling might lead you wrong. This is due to the fact that the sound "u" in english (the "e" is mute) is not a vowel, but something that is called "semi-vowel" in phonetics. Only full vowels ask for the "an".

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Post by emmem » Sat May 17, 2003 7:03 pm

micro wrote: I don't know what language your spell checker checks ;)

I use the English (UK) spell checker from Microsoft Word '97. It 'corrected' a Euro to An Euro.

But I think you're actually right. When I say Euro and after that An Euro I seem to change the pronunciation in a Europanto way. Well I guess I found one of the errors in that spell checker versions.

So I made another corrected banner
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micro wrote: Sorry about my smart-ass behavior but I think on a website and forum about the euro this single spelling rule should be used correctly :?
You don't have to be sorry. I'm actually glad you did so. I think there was a discussion about this some time ago, but I think I won't forget now that it's a Euro. :)

And while I'm at it I made another banner 8)
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and the Dutch version
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and the blank version
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Post by bhoeyb » Sat May 17, 2003 7:09 pm

emmem wrote: and the blank version
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Text: No, thank you. That banknote is not registrated by Euro Bill Tracker (together with a 'no thank you' hand :wink: )

Emmem, is this your hand?

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Post by emmem » Sat May 17, 2003 7:17 pm

bhoeyb wrote: Emmem, is this your hand?
Yes it is. :?

Starting with the size of the 10 Euro banknote you can calculate the size of my hand 8O
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Post by bhoeyb » Sat May 17, 2003 7:21 pm

Is it your pants too :lol: ?
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Post by emmem » Sat May 17, 2003 7:28 pm

bhoeyb wrote:Is it your pants too :lol: ?
Yes. But I was not wearing them when I took the picture :?
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Post by Fons » Sat May 17, 2003 10:42 pm

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Fons wrote:It's correct when it's 'an euro bill'
If the word after a begins with a, e, y, u, i or o than you must write an in case of a.
No, it's not correct, read Micro's post from above. The key to "a or an" is how you pronounce the word, not how it's written. For another example, consider "an honest person". Try saying that out loud.

Yea, it's weird, but that's the way it is. Blame the English.

Please note that even though "euro" might be pronounced with a starting vowel in your native language (as is the case in Finnish), this is English we're talking about, and the pronounciation rules are somewhat different.

Oh yes, thank you emmem for a new banner, looks nice :)

I didn't know that. I always thought it was because of the first letter of the word after it. :o
I just want to say that there are still some poeple who write i in case of I.

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Post by BogPoet » Sat May 17, 2003 11:36 pm

Fons wrote:
I didn't know that. I always thought it was because of the first letter of the word after it. :o
I just want to say that there are still some poeple who write i in case of I.
Yes but i think it's easier and faster to write it that way. It is just a matter of being more practical (but yes it should be spelled I)

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