"Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by avij » Mon May 27, 2019 4:32 pm

lmviterbo wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 pm
Confirmed so far (also, in grey, the other expected letters, according to this post by Elmo):

:note-100:
E
NZ
R
S*
U*
V
W

:note-200:
NZ
S*
U*


I will update this list as soon as I know something new.
OK, so which ones should we accept? Any educated guesses?
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Thu May 04, 2017 6:47 pm
Why is it possible to enter Z/Z :note-10: notes?
I don't think they exist with this value, but already over 700 of them already entered. Isn't it possible to block these kind of entries like how it's done with other values?
Over 1000 notes entered and counting. Is it possible to block these entries just like other non-existing new combinations?
Maybe, but these were initially allowed because Z/Z 10e notes were mentioned somewhere (like in the above listing). Apparently they didn't surface after all.

I'll also add support for the F 10e notes while I'm at it.
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by TheUndertaker » Mon May 27, 2019 6:53 pm

avij wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:32 pm
lmviterbo wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 pm
Confirmed so far (also, in grey, the other expected letters, according to this post by Elmo):

:note-100:
E
NZ
R
S*
U*
V
W

:note-200:
NZ
S*
U*


I will update this list as soon as I know something new.
OK, so which ones should we accept? Any educated guesses?
Fons wrote:
Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:12 pm
Fons wrote:
Thu May 04, 2017 6:47 pm
Why is it possible to enter Z/Z :note-10: notes?
I don't think they exist with this value, but already over 700 of them already entered. Isn't it possible to block these kind of entries like how it's done with other values?
Over 1000 notes entered and counting. Is it possible to block these entries just like other non-existing new combinations?
Maybe, but these were initially allowed because Z/Z 10e notes were mentioned somewhere (like in the above listing). Apparently they didn't surface after all.

I'll also add support for the F 10e notes while I'm at it.
:note-100: VA confirmed
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by avij » Mon May 27, 2019 10:38 pm

I did some changes to the supported denominations and Europa printer codes. Hopefully I didn't break anything. If I had known in advance how messy this Europa serial number system would become over time, I might have chosen some other approach. But maybe it works now, despite the spaghetti code handling the verifications.
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by JordiJanTaxi » Mon May 27, 2019 11:37 pm

avij wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 10:38 pm
I did some changes to the supported denominations and Europa printer codes. Hopefully I didn't break anything. If I had known in advance how messy this Europa serial number system would become over time, I might have chosen some other approach. But maybe it works now, despite the spaghetti code handling the verifications.
During later times, I've been thinking of europacodes. Since new printercodes are in use, when introducing French Oberthur serials, Slovakina flag appears. Once you open the bill, it shows Oberthur french, but when typing it, it doesn't. And I don't know if log is working fine only just because for a happy coincidence slovakian and french checksum numbers happen to be the same.

We will now have the same problem now with Bulgarian banknotes: when typing F, maltan flag will appear.

I don't know how to program, but I was told that there are orders like if, or then, or =, or true, so, even not knowing how difficult it can be, it would be maybe possible to make verification compare the letters of printer and serial. Show slovakian flag for E if letters are different (E/R, E/G), maltan flag for F (F/R and F/G), or, if letters are equal, french flag for E/E and bulgarian flag for F/F. This would create a problem only with dutch-printed cypriot bills (G/G), but in this case G is not yet in use with europabills, or the verification order includes a comparative of second serial digit being a letter or a number.

Sorry for this, I don't know how it must be done, and how much of a headache it is, just an idea.

In any case, and whatever it goes, and whatever you do, we all can only THANK YOU A LOT for your work on our hobby.

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by TheUndertaker » Tue May 28, 2019 12:15 am

All 400Mio 10 € Notes for Germany are printed in Bulgaria.
They are mass products and will spread soon out.

Giesecke&Devirent + Bundesdruckerei got the assignment to print the rab 200 Mio :note-50: notes
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by lmviterbo » Tue May 28, 2019 12:58 am

avij wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:32 pm
OK, so which ones should we accept? Any educated guesses?
:note-100: RB also spotted (Kai Pfaffenbach / Reuters photos).

I just updated the post you quoted, adding the combination above, as well as the :note-100: VA reported by TheUndertaker:
lmviterbo wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 pm
Confirmed so far (also, in grey, the other expected letters, according to this post by Elmo):

:note-100:
E
NZ
RB
S*
U*
VA
W

:note-200:
NZ
S*
U*

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by ErGo » Tue May 28, 2019 8:14 am

Are there again these lists, who has entered the first notes?

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by ErGo » Tue May 28, 2019 8:18 am

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by inDUS » Tue May 28, 2019 9:29 am

Bundesbank Dusseldorf/Germany
:note-100: :flag-eu: R006/RB40
:note-200: :flag-eu: S004/Sx/y009

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by romain17 » Tue May 28, 2019 9:36 am

ErGo wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:14 am
Are there again these lists, who has entered the first notes?
:note-100:
First R/R : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=195778925 08:36:30
First U/U : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=195778622 08:02:37
First S/S : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=195778764 08:16:50

:note-200:
First U/U : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=195778933 08:37:46
First N/N : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=195778623 08:02:37

I can not see notes before 8:00 am for :flag-de: and 6:00am in :flag-at:
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by jack_isidore » Tue May 28, 2019 9:50 am

lmviterbo wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 12:58 am
avij wrote:
Mon May 27, 2019 4:32 pm
OK, so which ones should we accept? Any educated guesses?
:note-100: RB also spotted (Kai Pfaffenbach / Reuters photos).

I just updated the post you quoted, adding the combination above, as well as the :note-100: VA reported by TheUndertaker:
lmviterbo wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 8:54 pm
Confirmed so far (also, in grey, the other expected letters, according to this post by Elmo):

:note-100:
E
NZ
RB
S*
U*
VA
W

:note-200:
NZ
S*
U*
i can add also :note-200: NA as serial number (N003/NA)

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by avij » Tue May 28, 2019 9:58 am

ErGo wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:14 am
Are there again these lists, who has entered the first notes?
Sure, here you go:
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-100e-europa-notes.txt
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-200e-europa-notes.txt
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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by JordiJanTaxi » Tue May 28, 2019 10:51 am

First 100 & 200 registered, out of Banco de España in Barcelona.
Verification box shows red, but site accepts log.
The 200 bill is not V, is U, and is not UA, but UD.

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by jack_isidore » Tue May 28, 2019 1:03 pm

avij wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:58 am
ErGo wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:14 am
Are there again these lists, who has entered the first notes?
Sure, here you go:
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-100e-europa-notes.txt
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-200e-europa-notes.txt
i cannot enter my notes from the national bank, please adapt. how could zimmerge manage this while he entered as first user the same combination?

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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

Post by JordiJanTaxi » Tue May 28, 2019 1:10 pm

jack_isidore wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 1:03 pm
avij wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 9:58 am
ErGo wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 8:14 am
Are there again these lists, who has entered the first notes?
Sure, here you go:
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-100e-europa-notes.txt
http://miuku.net/tmp/first-200e-europa-notes.txt
i cannot enter my notes from the national bank, please adapt. how could zimmerge manage this while he entered as first user the same combination?
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