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Serial number structures

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If you know serial number structures of different printers, you can add them to this thread.
I will start:

L/D (Finland / Setec Oy)
L01919xxxxxx
L (Finland)
019 (order 19)
19 (location on the sheet = F4)
xxxxx (sheet number - 00000-99999)
x (check number)

Location on the sheet:

5-10€
01 = G1
02 = F1
...
07 = A1
08 = G2
09 = F2
...
35 = A5

20€
01 = F1
02 = E1
...
06 = A1
07 = F2
08 = E2
...
30 = A5

50-500€
01 = E1
02 = D1
...
05 = A1
06 = E2
07 = D2
...
20 = A4
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Re: Serial number structures

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L/H 50-100€ (Finland / Britain - De La Rue)
L22101xxxxxx
L (Finland)
221 (order 221)
01 (location on the sheet)
xxxxx (sheet number)
x (check number)

Location on the sheet:

50€
01 = H1
02 = G1
...
08 = A1
09 = H2
10 = G2
...
40 = A5

100€
01 = A1
02 = B1
...
08 = H1
09 = A2
10 = B2
...
40 = H5
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Re: Serial number structures

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Re: Serial number structures

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An interesting scheme with Europa P bills:
P008E5:
PB896704523 (not valid numbers)
PB896704524
PB896704525

Then:
P008E4:
PB888704526
PB888704527...

The last numbers keep ascending, but the first three numbers descend instead.
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Re: Serial number structures

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Hi, Salieri

These "schemes", as experts call them, have been studied for years, and most of them are already well defined (but not all!)

The Italian EBTor giulcenc has published links to PDFs with all tables in the Italian forum, here.

These are also discussed in a German forum (on the site banknotesworld.com). There are very few Euro banknote scheme researchers. If you keep the interest, welcome to the club! 😀
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giulcenc hasn't updated the PDFs for a while. 2002 series were last updated in December 2017 and Europa series were last updated in November 2019.
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As to the 2002 series, the researchers know very little beyond what giulcenc published, as far as I know (and I boldly believe I know a lot :) ).

As to the Europa series, I'm sure he'll update the schemes with every new Draghi as soon as he has some more Lagardes.

If you already knew about giulcenc's tables and I sounded condescending to you, sorry, it was unintentional. I browsed your posts and it seemed that you were talking about schemes that are already known. I'll check your posts again.

EDIT: Well, I just checked them and I was right, those schemes aren't new. By the way, the P008 is better explained with giulcenc's tables.
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Just a kind reminder that the focus of EuroBillTracker is to track banknotes, not figuring out the exact rules how the serial numbers are constructed. Unfortunately there are people who could use such information for purposes which are counter to our goals.
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The 6-digit vertical number on Europa banknotes repeats the last digits of the horizontal serial number. Why are there 6 numbers in particular? Why not a full number?
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Hi, it's this a fake banknote?

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EddyMuseuWPM wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 9:43 pm Hi, it's this a fake banknote?
At least both serialnumbers are valid.
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Re: Serial number structures

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Thank you 🙏
How do you know?
Do you know any formula to check the 2° Series "Europa"
With 2 letters?

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If we replace the first two letters by their place in the alphabet (A=1, ....Z=26) the check digit is 7!
For example SE1111111111 = 19+5+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 34 i.e. 3+4 = 7! :D
VA2222222222= 22+1+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2 = 43, or 4+3 = 7! :D
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Sorry for the typos: :?
SE1111111111 = 19+5+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1 = 34 etc etc
VA2222222222 = 22+1+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2 = 43 etc etc
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