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Post by starcapitan » Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:24 pm

tabbs wrote:
starcapitan wrote:what about the coins _ ALL _ of 07 : are they with the New Common Side
Most euro countries (10 of 13) started using the new common sides in 2007: Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Slovenia, Spain.

Austria, Italy and Portugal used the old maps on the 2007 coins. But there are exceptions, like this year's Treaty of Rome commems which have the new map in all member states. The three non-EU countries - Monaco, San Marino and Vatican - basically get what the producing mints make: MC "new", SM+VA "old".

In 2008 all euro countries have to use the "post-enlargement" maps. Which means that Austria, Cyprus, Italy, Malta and Portugal will come with new reverse designs.

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Thank you really much tabbs but I don't understand what you said about Vatican S.Marino and Monaco . Could you explain better :?: What do you think it will be their production - divisional and CC - 4 08 :?: ciao
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Re: NCS

Post by tabbs » Fri Dec 07, 2007 12:21 am

starcapitan wrote:I don't understand what you said about Vatican S.Marino and Monaco . Could you explain better :?: What do you think it will be their production - divisional and CC - 4 08 :?:
The three are not EU members but have monetary agreements with the European Union. (Similar to what they had with France / Italy before.) These agreements say, for example, that they can only issue so and so many coins per year (see below), and also that the coins are to be minted by the Monnaie de Paris (in the case of Monaco) and by the IPZS, Rome (in the case of San Marino and the Vatican). So they just "get" the map that France or Italy used for the 2007 issues. Does that make sense? :)

And no, I have no idea what "themes" the commemorative €2 coins from the three will have in 2008. As for the production volume, Monaco has a relative limit - it can issue 1/500, that is 0.2 percent, of the annual French volume. San Marino can issue coins worth almost two million euro per year (€1,944,000), and the Vatican has an annual limit of 1 million euro.

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Post by bzajc » Fri Dec 07, 2007 3:27 pm

If anybody is interested in :flag-at: ToR PM me. I just got it in circulation.

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Post by starcapitan » Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:48 pm

I have been today to the 109veronafil in Verona : nord-est IT ,my first numismatic convention and I am very happy . I took the 2 € :flag-fi: 07 : yes , the 1 that is from few days in circulation now and there is still nothing on the BCE site.I paid 1,5 € 4 the plastic envelope and 4 the country paper.I saw at the Belgians stand: The-famous-coinshop tel:0032 478341573 ( right not like many italians , I am talking also about institutions,that forget to omitt or put inside ( ) the zero after the international code ) the-famous-coinshop@telenet.be - they gave me a pen - for 3 and in another from rolls at 2,5 and I paid 4 like I do , + 50c , at Ghiglione in Genoa (GE) , my hometown
U have 2b there . . so many coins : Vatican papa wojtyla and sede vacante , CC of S.Marino , the OFFICIAL Cyprus set and the grace kelly one

I tracked 7 notes of course via WAP with the mobile : 5 x :note-20: and 2 x :note-5: - new dot ! ND
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P.S. I wrote down www.eurobt.eu on a piace of paper of the :flag-be:s
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Post by starcapitan » Sat Dec 08, 2007 3:35 pm

my mum , that doesn't like coins , suggests that in :flag-fi: 07 each rower is 10 years :arrow: 9 x 10 = 90°Independence :idea:

I repeat strange,very strange,that probably we will have 3 countries with CC 4 the same motive.We never had more than 1 and now they are sure 2 : tabbs 4 :flag-pt: 08 ( I mailed also to http://www.bportugal.pt/ ), and I phoned to the IPZS , 4 :flag-it: 08

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Post by Dinkietoy » Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:48 pm

The Grace Kelly coin costs already 445€ at the moment :cry:
For 2008 the new 2€ coin of Germany (Hamburg) 3,75 and for the whole set 17,50€
The new 2€ coin Luxemburg (Chateau Berg) 3,75€
And also a new 2€ coin from Monaco (Birthday Albert) medio March, no price available.

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Post by starcapitan » Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:26 pm

Hi Dinkietoy , i have seen Image 07 in Verona ( see the 3rd post above ) at 350 € : very nice coin
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Post by tabbs » Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:33 pm

Seems that the "theme" of the 2008 Vatican €2 commem will be the "Anno S. Paolo" which begins in mid-2008 and ends in mid-2009. The apostle Paul was born (about) 2000 years ago, hence that Paul Year ...

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Post by starcapitan » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:19 pm

On ebay I have seen :flag-lu: 08

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and :flag-si: 08

Image

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Post by tabbs » Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:45 pm

Those are not the official designs. In fact, I know (from a forum) the guy who "made" the Luxembourg piece. :) That design is based on a verbal description of what the coin will depict. The Slovenian piece is a (third party) visualization of the official design.

By the way, the Belgian (circulation) euro and cent coins will soon have a different design. The 2008 pieces have the country identifier "BE", and also a mintmark and a mintmaster sign. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/sit ... 070007.pdf Several other minor changes, but unfortunately still one design for all eight denominations ...

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Post by starcapitan » Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:09 pm

but is the :flag-pt: 2008 that we have seen official :?:

VERY VERY interesting the :flag-be: change

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Post by starcapitan » Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:46 pm

:flag-fi: 07 is on ECB site :!: The first of the list but it is only in the English form
I still can't see the image :!: :evil: :!: am I the only 1 :?:
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Post by starcapitan » Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:11 pm

Here the change .
What is BE :?: The international 4 Belgium is just B !!!
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Post by tabbs » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:11 am

That "B" is what they used on the Atomium €2 coin. But the "BE" means the same; it's the ISO 3166 code (more precisely, the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code) for Belgium. Those are, by and large, the same codes which we use for Internet domains: DE = Germany, FR = France, IT = Italy, etc.

Finland also uses that code on its current (2007-) coins: a little "FI". On the car license plates, however (where Belgium has the "B", Italy the "I", and so on), Finland has "FIN".

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Post by starcapitan » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:58 pm

I got the 11 missing 2 € Treaty of Rome :flag-pt: :flag-at: :flag-nl: :flag-lu: :flag-ie: :flag-fr: :flag-es: :flag-de: :flag-gr: :flag-be: :flag-si: I spent 75 € - the most expensive Slovenia - in Ghiglione in Genoa.
Strange how it's written Europe in the Irish and the Belgian ones ;
Strange the Luxemburg one with "that thing " , I can't describe , that can be the Granduke profile and the floor design
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