Treaty of Rome 2€: swapping

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Post by alex77r » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:19 pm

I hope so, that would be a very good news.

The prices they sell the rolls are very high and are not representative of the real market. I don't think that 400.000 people in Europe are ready to buy the coins at this price. It is all about speculation.

And it is not even possible to ask the charity of Slovenian people who are able to find them in circulation, since my topic has been locked.
I hope that Slovenian people already read this topic and will help us :wink:

I will do my best to obtain rolls of the french coin and give it to our fellow ebters for its facial value (2 euros).
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Post by Elmo » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:29 pm

I don't think many more Slovenian ToR commemos will be minted, because
regulation prohibits this. The maximum number of 2€ commemos a country is
allowed to mint is 1/50 of the total amount of normal 2€ coins minted by that
country. Slovenia has minted 21.350.000 2€ coins (see www.euro-auflagen.de),
so the maximum amount of 2€ commemos Slovenia is allowed to mint is
21.350.000/50 = 427.000. Until now, Slovenia has had 400.000 ToR commemos
minted, so they are allowed to mint an additional 27.000 commemos only. If
they get minted, they will be minted by the Mint of Finland. The extra coins
will have to be flown to Slovenia, and that is quite expensive. If Slovenia
would mint several hundreds of thousands of extra commemos the total costs
per coin (incl. shipping costs) wouldn't be very high, but 27.000 coins is a
small quantity, so the total costs per coin would be quite high.
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Post by franci » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:45 pm

alex77r wrote: And it is not even possible to ask the charity of Slovenian people who are able to find them in circulation, since my topic has been locked.
I hope that Slovenian people already read this topic and will help us :wink:

I will do my best .........
There is not a lot of Slovenian reading forum and specialy this topic, so i do not belive someone could help you. :?
But we all try to do the best.....but i do not understand why your topic was locked......there must be something between moderators. :lol:

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Post by Licht & Feuer » Wed Apr 18, 2007 1:54 pm

Elmo wrote:I don't think many more Slovenian ToR commemos will be minted, because regulation prohibits this.
But maybe some tricks are possible though, like mint 1.000.000 further ToR-coins now and set off against the slovenian 2008-issue of 2€.
Indeed, I'd be quiet surprised if they won't find a way to take this chance to "make money" :wink:

Well, I can offer you the following 2€ for face-value or as change for another 2€ commemorative:

:flag-gr: 2004 - Olympics
:flag-de: 2006 - State of Schleswig-Holstein (F)
:flag-de: 2007 - State of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (F)
:flag-de: 2007 - Treaty Of Rome (G)

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Post by tabbs » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:57 pm

Elmo wrote:I don't think many more Slovenian ToR commemos will be minted, because regulation prohibits this.
Hmm. The Council conclusion regarding commemorative €2 coins says that "the total number of coins put into circulation for each individual issue should not exceed the higher of the following two ceilings:

(i) 0.1% of the total number of 2-euro coins in circulation, brought into circulation by all issuing States, at the beginning of the year preceding the year of issuance of the commemorative coin, this ceiling being raised exceptionally to up to 2.0% of the total circulation of 2-euro coins of all issuing States if a truly global and highly symbolic event is commemorated, in which case the issuer should refrain from launching another similar commemorative circulation coin issue during the subsequent four years;

(ii) 5.0% of the total number of 2-euro coins in circulation, brought into circulation by the issuing State concerned, at the beginning of the year preceding the year of issuance of the commemorative coin."


http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance/eur ... ons_en.pdf

So I suppose the mintage of that Slovenian commem could well be higher. Have not done any calculations yet though. :)

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Post by BasJansen » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:07 pm

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Post by casposete » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:49 pm

Hi to everybody!!

I can offer all spanish 2 € TOR anybody can needs. I am lloking for the other european TOR (specially slovenian TOR :D ) as you can imagine and 2007 non spanish coins too.
Furthermore, I can offer 5 10 and 50 cent 2007 Spain coins. If someone is interested in swapping write me a pm or to eurosspain@hotmail.com

Greetings!

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Post by casposete » Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:11 pm

franci wrote:
alex77r wrote: And it is not even possible to ask the charity of Slovenian people who are able to find them in circulation, since my topic has been locked.
I hope that Slovenian people already read this topic and will help us :wink:

I will do my best .........
There is not a lot of Slovenian reading forum and specialy this topic, so i do not belive someone could help you. :?
But we all try to do the best.....but i do not understand why your topic was locked......there must be something between moderators. :lol:
Well, I have thought writing to slovenian people a post in their topic for "english speakers users" but I don`t know if they get angry with me. Anyway, I have been collecting euros since 2002 and I have never found the problems I have right now for finding this coin and there are coins in other countries with less mintage.
I hope some good slovenian ebtracker can help us

Jes.

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Post by Jes. » Thu May 31, 2007 8:48 am

Hello!
I am also interested on that coins! but at the moment I cannot offer the ToR coin from Spain (My country).

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Post by lazza » Thu May 31, 2007 5:34 pm

Aha! I wondered what this coin was.... I got it in change at Schiphol.

It has a picture of a book on a star/flower, with the inscription:
"Römische Verträge 50 Jahre" above and "Budesrepublik Deutshcland" below.

Is it particularly rare?

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Post by hoppa » Fri Jun 01, 2007 8:41 am

Well, it depends on the letter that's on top of the coin.

The mintages of the German ToR €2 pieces:
A: 1.000.000 -- D: 14.500.000 -- F: 8.000.000 -- G: 5.000.000 -- J: 1.500.000
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Post by Fjon » Fri Jun 01, 2007 1:58 pm

Got a few Irish ones to swap. Anyone interested?

I need these ones ToR coins:

Austria
Finland
France
Luxembourg
Slovenia

I only want to swap 1:1 (except for Slovenia), and only for coins I don't have :wink:
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Post by Jes » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:38 pm

Is anyone interested on :flag-es: ToR ?
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Greek and Dutch ToR to swap for....

Post by martin » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:14 am

Hi all,

I have the greek and the dutch ToR CC 2 euro for swapping with others.

I'm still looking for other ToR coins (especially from Germany with the letters A F and J) but also other CC coins from previous years.

PM or email me if your are intrested or if we can help each other in completing our collections.

Greets,

Martin
(martinsmunten@hotmail.com).

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Post by lazza » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:11 am

hoppa wrote:Well, it depends on the letter that's on top of the coin.

The mintages of the German ToR €2 pieces:
A: 1.000.000 -- D: 14.500.000 -- F: 8.000.000 -- G: 5.000.000 -- J: 1.500.000
I guess this is the small letter next to "2007"...? Well, it's "F", so it's one in 8 million... :roll: doesn't sound very rare to me...(but then again, I have no idea what would constitute a rare coin :) )

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