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Re: Brexit?

Post by joergb30 » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:59 pm

"Brexit" enters "Oxford English Dictionary":
https://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/201 ... nters-oed/

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Re: Brexit?

Post by claudio vda » Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:01 pm

Brexit started.

A couple of days ago Theresa May triggered the article 50 and today Donald Tusk proposed the guidelines for the negotiations.

Article by The Guardian :arrow: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -of-brexit
Complete text of the guidelines :arrow: http://g8fip1kplyr33r3krz5b97d1.wpengin ... llText.pdf
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Re: Brexit?

Post by Montgomery Burns » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:37 pm

So...

About six months to go. I never thought it would actually take the announced two years, I figuredt that was a sort of informal deadline that could be easily met. Tough negotiations - or lack thereof is more like it, that was the truth at some points - everything at a standstill! Scotland wants a new independence referendum.

Thoughts/prognosis?

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Re: Brexit?

Post by ART » Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:44 pm

Montgomery Burns wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:37 pm
Thoughts/prognosis?
There is a growing consensus for a second brexit referendum: they will probably do it and the result will be different, after thinking about the consequences. "Exit from brexit". The real problem is whether they will be able to remedy this idiocy of brexit or if they will be forced themselves to carry it on, maybe without even an agreement (the most catastrophic hypothesis).
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Re: Brexit?

Post by claudio vda » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:14 pm

I am quite pessimistic about Brexit.

The 3 major points of the leaving agreement are: (1) Irish border, (2) citizens rights, (3) leaving money.
Points (2) and (3) are solved, but point (1) is still unsolved and due to the puzzle composed by conflicting interests it is really hard to solve, with the serious risk of UK crashing out of EU with no agreement.

The question is very easy: UK government wants to leave from Single Market, therefore a hard border is needed. The Good Friday agreement in Ireland prevents a hard border between Ulster and the Republic. The DUP MPs prevent any kind of border between Ulster and Great Britain. Chequers plan suggest that UK will be out of Single Market, but goods circulating across UK will be divided in "suitable for being exported in EU" and "not suitable", without any border control; of course this plan was rejected by EU27 as impossible to apply actually.
On these basis, no solution is possible.

The lack of an agreement will be catastrophic for UK economy and it will bring some problems also to EU27, but until the Irish border problem is not going to be solved, no-deal-Brexit seems every day more probable.
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Re: Brexit?

Post by ART » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:58 pm

U2 against brexit:


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"Awaken, my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright!
Know that I am the Overmind, the eternal will of the swarm,
and that you have been created to serve me."

"If you lose, you can't win" (Andrea)
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