Suspicious notes and users

[LArdennais]

And check also the previous User of this (fake ?) Hit : http://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/?user=115524

=> tavullia86

[Klaas Klever]

Welcome back beaweb

After a short break beaweb is continuing tracking

last action beaweb (Berlin) Ich bin dann mal weg ....: 2012-12-27 20:05:27
first action opm..(Falkensee): 2013-01-01 09:04:55

IP´s checked with support tool, 2 accounts with the same IP.

[beaweb]

That is wrong!
Two supporters
who have previously picked up the money from the bank an brought back,
I myself am not so well on foot,
have decided to keep going.
The supoortes use the same computer from my company,
so the same IP-adress.
My interest in EBT was killed
by the opportunism of Mr. Johansson aka avij
on the night of November 27, 2012 at 3:03am.
And people like you!
And now let me alone.

[Bollivierke]

That is wrong!
Two supporters
who have previously picked up the money from the bank an brought back,
I myself am not so well on foot,
have decided to keep going.
The supoortes use the same computer from my company,
so the same IP-adress.
My interest in EBT was killed
by the opportunism of Mr. Johansson aka avij
on the night of November 27, 2012 at 3:03am.
And people like you!
And now let me alone.

If your interest in EBt has been killed, why do you still post on the forum?
Just leave then

[avij]

That is wrong!
Two supporters
who have previously picked up the money from the bank an brought back,
I myself am not so well on foot,
have decided to keep going.
The supoortes use the same computer from my company,
so the same IP-adress.
My interest in EBT was killed
by the opportunism of Mr. Johansson aka avij
on the night of November 27, 2012 at 3:03am.
And people like you!
And now let me alone.

Hi, happy new year to you too. You know, I've been trying to contact you privately for some time now, but if you prefer, we can do this in public. Judging by the time, it looks like you're angry at my decision to moderate two of your hits. So let's have a look at those Berlin-Rome hits again.

1182 km, 22 days (moderated by myself)
1182 km, 22 days (automatically moderated by the system because its distance and days match the previous hit)
1182 km, 24 days (moderated by myself)
1182 km, 50 days (no moderation)

Especially noteworthy is that all of these four notes were found in Rome on the very same second, so it's very very likely that all the four notes made the Berlin-Rome trip together. Yes, that can happen. I haven't accused anyone of fabricated hits (although some others have, but I'm not responsible for what others have said). I'm only concerned about keeping the list of interesting hits interesting. The interestingness is determined from an "outsider's point of view", so even though it might be interesting to you that four notes travelled all the way from Berlin to Rome, it might not be interesting for others. Optimally we'd group these four hits into one "hit group" and show them as such, but there's no technical possibility for that at the moment. Thus the policy of moderating all but one hit from such hit groups. I even mentioned this in my original message. I quote: on the grounds that they were similar enough to the third [unmoderated] one, which I left unmoderated for now.

This has been the policy for some time now, long before you joined. It's unfortunate that the moderators didn't catch this when the hits occurred, but only a long time afterwards. I hope that this message clarifies the reason why I decided to moderate some of your hits. This is nothing personal against you or LITO. I still hope that you'd continue entering notes.

Klaas Klever: I think you shouldn't be publishing IP addresses of users, even partial ones. Everyone has the right to their privacy.

[dornbusch2010]

Welcome back beaweb

After a short break beaweb is continuing tracking

last action beaweb (Berlin) Ich bin dann mal weg ....: 2012-12-27 20:05:27
first action opm..(Falkensee): 2013-01-01 09:04:55

IP´s checked with support tool, 2 accounts with the same IP.

whether it makes sense, is a question. to start the run of the next 1.000.000 from 0 again.
but is it also suspicious ?

i don t know why he / she changed sometimes the nickname. i had 13 hits with beaweb between 06 /2011 and 08 / 2012. for me all this time the question, why i could only see some of his / her thousands of hit s in the personal list of account.
it is every time very interesting to look after a hit in the list of hit partner and beaweb was the only one with this " specialty ".

[FoxyGreen]

My interest in EBT was killed by the opportunism of Mr. Johansson aka avij on the night of November 27, 2012 at 3:03am. And people like you! And now let me alone.

I would like to start the new year with a quote by Douglas Adams: How great would it be to be nice to people for a change. Really beaweb, as a very small EBT contributor, I have no idea what this whole fuzz is about (being honest, I don't even care). The only thing I can see is the rude tone in the forum. It casts a bad light on the whole project of euro notes tracking.

So please stop it, all of you.

[MM8_NL]

The supoortes use the same computer from my company,
so the same IP-adress.

Working at the 1.1.? Not nice.
A good job where you can put in the whole day bills.

[MM8_NL]

changed

[LITO]

So let's have a look at those Berlin-Rome hits again.

1182 km, 22 days (moderated by myself)
1182 km, 22 days (automatically moderated by the system because its distance and days match the previous hit)
1182 km, 24 days (moderated by myself)
1182 km, 50 days (no moderation)

Especially noteworthy is that all of these four notes were found in Rome on the very same second, so it's very very likely that all the four notes made the Berlin-Rome trip together. Yes, that can happen. I haven't accused anyone of fabricated hits (although some others have, but I'm not responsible for what others have said). I'm only concerned about keeping the list of interesting hits interesting. The interestingness is determined from an "outsider's point of view", so even though it might be interesting to you that four notes travelled all the way from Berlin to Rome, it might not be interesting for others. Optimally we'd group these four hits into one "hit group" and show them as such, but there's no technical possibility for that at the moment. Thus the policy of moderating all but one hit from such hit groups. I even mentioned this in my original message. I quote: on the grounds that they were similar enough to the third [unmoderated] one, which I left unmoderated for now.



This has been the policy for some time now, long before you joined. It's unfortunate that the moderators didn't catch this when the hits occurred, but only a long time afterwards. I hope that this message clarifies the reason why I decided to moderate some of your hits. This is nothing personal against you or LITO. I still hope that you'd continue entering notes.

I am glad there is nothing personal against beaweb and me but I am not too happy about moderation of 2 of our hits either on the grounds that there were similar enough.
It is obvious that those notes travelled together (in the wallet of a flight attendant) and were entered by me at the same time , but what is hard to understand is why it took more than 15 months to realize that , especially after the fuss that was made when those hits occurred in august 2011(page 981).
I do not think it was fair to moderate those hits after such a long time without new evidence of wrong practice , it was not necessary and eventually counter-productive as it is demotivating loyal users.
I can see every day a number of similar enough hits which are not moderated , many of them with less time difference than ours, this is anoying as it shows a treatment difference beetween countries , clearly discriminating users of some countries.
To avoid this kind of problem the similar enough rule must be clearly defined and not left to the appreciation of each moderator as it seems to be now.


Happy 2013 to all EBT users

[jonman]

thanks, lito, i totally agree

[avij]

Not wanting to rehash things I've already said -- if you want to help out, head over to this topic and add your comments about what makes a hit interesting or uninteresting for you. You can also test out your formulas by picking a random list of recent hits and calculating the scores for those hits using your formula. If the scores seem "wrong", adjust the formula until the scores seem fine.

[LITO]

Thanks to those good wills who try to improve the system by implementing a formula for interesting hits, but seriously why bother create a complicated gaz factory ?
Things usually work better when they are simple , and the simplest way is to consider every hit as interesting unless it is friendly.

[avij]

I replied on the other topic to keep this topic for suspicious notes and users.

[Korl]

I've just seen 4 serials shown on TV. Where can I enter those as public notes?