"Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes

[Arminius]

It´s not possible to enter the new Oberthur series E012** / EN***.

this has been possible for a few weeks now; if you're sure you haven't made a typo, please send a mail with photo of printer code and serial number to contact@eurobilltracker.com

It´s only a problem with the current Android App EBT.art.

It works on my laptop.

They probably use different filters?

[klapotec]

It´s only a problem with the current Android App EBT.art.

there's a separate topic for that

[Elmo]

It seems that F001/FM are out there: https://enotesprice.com//blog/20_f_f_00 ... europe_202

[Fons]

It seems that F001/FM are out there: https://enotesprice.com//blog/20_f_f_00 ... europe_202

Is it already possible to enter such notes?
'Tables' says none are entered until now

[avij]

Apparently not. I'll need to take care of this issue.

Edit: Should work now.

[mizar]

As far as I know, België and Österreich (and Italy, Spain, Greece, have public tenders, Portugal, (and The Nederlands, Finland in the past and United Kingdom) have external companies printing paper. Then, France has Banque Nationale de France and Oberthur, and Germany has Bundesdruckerei and Gesiecke & Devrient. The Bulgarian printer, F, is a subsidiary of french Oberthur. I don't know if Slovenia, Slovakia, Cyprus, Malta, Baltic Republics, etc., had ever had their own printers for their pre-euro currencies, but their euros were mostly printed by Dutch Johann Enschedé, French Oberthur and German Gesiecke & Devrient. Probably forgetting things. Only side note is that I mention UK because de la Rue in Gateshead were printing some Finnish banknotes and all (or most of) portuguese 50ers.

Slovenia printed only the temporary poorly secured notes in Celje, in secret before independence. The real money was printed at De La Rue (some also in Austria and G+D) on Slovene paper, coins were minted in Slovakia, some also in Hungary.

[ciao85]

The ECB today announced that there will be a full redesign of euro banknotes by 2024. No date has been set for the release of the third series.

[bumboozel]

The ECB today announced that there will be a full redesign of euro banknotes by 2024. No date has been set for the release of the third series.

[ART]

Very interesting, even if I have always thought that the banknotes of an internationally important currency such as the euro should never deviate too much from the initial basic model, because they must be immediately recognizable for the style even outside EU.

[Montgomery Burns]

What's interesting/slightly worrying is the people in future member countries will have to get used to whatever bills are in circulation at the time, and also be familiar with all of the past bills that they never handled in their daily routine. I can see an old fiver getting a few odd looks a few years from now in new member countries...

[klapotec]

I can see an old fiver getting a few odd looks a few years from now in new member countries...

old fivers are getting odd looks in old member countries already

[Montgomery Burns]

Haha,well, I certainly get surprised when I get one.

[JordiJanTaxi]

I can see an old fiver getting a few odd looks a few years from now in new member countries...

old fivers are getting odd looks in old member countries already

I understand what Mr. Burns writes. I give change every day to many people, and most of them just do not realize I'm giving them 2002s. But some others (luckily very few) get suspicious. That "oddity" in their looks, not in the probability to find one.

[JordiJanTaxi]

Very interesting, even if I have always thought that the banknotes of an internationally important currency such as the euro should never deviate too much from the initial basic model, because they must be immediately recognizable for the style even outside EU.

Well: europas keep images, sizes and basic colors of 2002s, and my guess is that at least the two latter characteristics are not going to change.

Apart from that, I can say that from 1978 (aprox, I think) we had 3 ABSOLUTELY different 100 pta banknotes (in design and size, all same brown), 2 different 500, 4 different 1.000, 2 different 2.000 (the second "model" printed in two different colours, dark red first, orange later), 2 different 5.000 and 2 different 10.000. All of them sharing common colours, but totyally different image, totally different style disegn, and becoming smaller and smaller at every new edition.

When I was in Germany in january 1991, there were the old "baroque" banknotes along with totally different new modern ones. And in UK they have (or had together for a year or so) old 5 & 10 pound banknotes together with new smaller vinyl ones.

If it was for me, euros would get back their national letters, and not only that: I'd reserve 1/4 of the area for a national image corresponding to the age of each bill: Acropolis for greek 5ers, Colosseo for italian teens, Nôtre Dame for french 20ers, Brandenburg gate for german 50ers, Elevador do Carmo for portuguese 100s or Arc de la Défense for french 200s, for a quick improvisation. Showing 6 images for 6 styles for each country.

[siriusLT]

is it some footprint from the print machine or ATM?