Suspicious notes and users

MM8_NL · Post by **MM8_NL** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:40 pm

CNGL wrote:It has been done for a few times, my fellow referral . But then again he starts over. So I want that account to be deleted now!

We still have two hits with him. So not all his notes were deleted in the past.

CNGL · Post by **CNGL** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:44 pm

Yeah, but all his fakenotes were deleted. But he starts over again...

Bollivierke · Post by **Bollivierke** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:19 pm

I think they should try to ban him from the site (IP ban?).

He has had enough chances to do it right but he keeps faking!

LArdennais · Post by **LArdennais** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:09 pm

mizar wrote:FAQ says:
Accounts convicted of faking will normally have all their tracked notes removed.
So why this is not done for Petek&co ???

It's time, Cleaning Girls, to do NOW the greatest operation of 2012 that several EBTers still wait from weeks & weeks...perhaps years & years !?

: the definitive deleting of Petek&Co's account !

LArdennais · Post by **LArdennais** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:10 pm

LArdennais wrote:A fresh new User...9 notes entered, 7 Hits...with the same User !!!

http://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/? ... ser=177367

Suspicious User = coudibou http://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/?user=177367

Here is the "mea culpa" of the other User (fordj) - in the

part of our best Forums

: http://forum.eurobilltracker.com/viewto ... 90#p977254

nossi · Post by **nossi** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:24 pm

LArdennais wrote:
It's time, Cleaning Girls, to do NOW the greatest operation of 2012 that several EBTers still wait from weeks & weeks...perhaps years & years !? : the definitive deleting of Petek&Co's account !

I think it is no good idea, to delete the account, because then he will open a new one, as he did in the past. It is easier for the cleaning girls to delete all notes of "petek" monthly. To ban the IP would only work if you can be sure, that it is a fix IP belonging to his own computer. But if he does his nonsense in an internetcafe?

ErGo · Post by **ErGo** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:14 pm

nossi wrote:It is easier for the cleaning girls to delete all notes of "petek" monthly.

Correct!

jonman · Post by **jonman** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:47 pm

also, as far as i understand, the cleaning girls don’t act upon us users wanting them (or even requesting them) to act. in this topic we can assist them with reporting suspicious behaviour, and the cleaning girls can anounce their actions and their reasons (which should usually be the user’s/users’ faking).
it doesn’t help anybody if we express our (possibly rightful) anger here or demand more rigorous action, as this won’t either influence the fakers nor the cleaning girls.

an-148 · Post by **an-148** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:22 pm

jonman wrote:also, as far as i understand, the cleaning girls don’t act upon us users wanting them (or even requesting them) to act. in this topic we can assist them with reporting suspicious behaviour, and the cleaning girls can anounce their actions and their reasons (which should usually be the user’s/users’ faking).
it doesn’t help anybody if we express our (possibly rightful) anger here or demand more rigorous action, as this won’t either influence the fakers nor the cleaning girls.

absolutely !!

žolca · Post by **žolca** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:06 am

The cleaning girls. What are you waiting?
No monthly, forever!
Deleting account of this faker Petek&co! NOW!

ErGo · Post by **ErGo** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:58 pm

In the meantime:

Paulo Moura (135010): 268 notes deleted
Sirius58 (175271): 232 notes
hidden blade (177137): 1 note
Chrischi (92692): 3 notes
zoz (56245): 1 note
Pooldancer (177330): 1 note
Tuschkasten (177329): 1 note
Strop345 (177328): 1 note
Zyklop (168242): 1 note
ben_49 (85084): 1 note
essi1969 (100134): 35 notes
Zyklop3 (168243): 1 note
roan100 (172689): 3 notes

FoxyGreen · Post by **FoxyGreen** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:55 pm

mizar wrote:FAQ says:
Accounts convicted of faking will normally have all their tracked notes removed.
So why this is not done for Petek&co ???

A good remark by user mizar., which -- judging from the comments in this thread -- seems to be endorsed by a number of user. There are user who seem to be against such a step, for example nossi:

nossi wrote:I think it is no good idea, to delete the account, because then he will open a new one, as he did in the past. It is easier for the cleaning girls to delete all notes of "petek" monthly. To ban the IP would only work if you can be sure, that it is a fix IP belonging to his own computer. But if he does his nonsense in an internetcafe?

But, I cannot see what is supposed to be the point here. Rules are rules, and if they weren't definite, they could as well be dropped. Of course, it reads "normally", but in my opinion, there is nothing "non-normal" going on here.

Though, I dare say that the work of the "cleaning girls" is kept quite obscure for us "normal" user (which of course has a certain entitlement). So, could someone with the necessary insight please shed some on why
a) the aformentioned EBT rule "faker get all notes deleted" seems to not be put into effect with those users who do the most damage to this project and
b) what is the difference between fully deleting a user and subsequently being on watch for (possible) newly created accounts by the same person, and repeated monthly (partial) cleanings?

In my opinion, this is about keeping EBT clean of fakers. The proven faker Petek&co currently has around 260,000 notes registered. He seems to enter something like 3,000 new ones a week, which can be extrapolated to 12,000 notes a month. This is much smaller than the overall number currently fouling the database. Even if he created new accounts after being deleted and commenced to enter (fake) bills at that pace, these would at once pop up in the list of most active users, and therefore could be targeted easily. To me, there doesn't seem to be a chance that any hypothetical "post-petek" accounts could accumulate several hundred thousand notes without being detected.

Rules should be valid for everyone in equal measure. Keep the database clean. For the sake of EBT!
--Tobias--

bochius · Post by **bochius** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:09 pm

FoxyGreen wrote: Rules should be valid for everyone in equal measure. Keep the database clean. For the sake of EBT!
--Tobias--

I agree!

claudio vda · Post by **claudio vda** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:40 pm

Nice hit!

http://it.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=115829979" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What a pity that Riccccc just told us that he still has the note with him, in Italy, very far away from Slovenia!

It is not the first time that Petek&co inserts notes that are not in his possetion, but

nossi wrote: It is easier for the cleaning girls to delete all notes of "petek" monthly

This means that all of his 260 000 notes were insered during the last month?
Due to the fact that a month is composed of about 2 600 000 seconds, it means an average of a note every 10 seconds for a whole month... or maybe his notes are not cleaned every month?

riccccc · Post by **riccccc** » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:44 pm

In reference to my hit with Petek:

https://it.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=115778991

I point out that the bill is still in my hands

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