Suspicious notes and users

[ravestorm]

romky is entering non-existing combinations:

2009-02-21 20:42:38 5 EURNxxxx3214xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 100 EURSxxxx5321xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURTxxxx4563xxx Gxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURHxxxx5412xxx Gxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 100 EURNxxxx5215xxx Fxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 5 EURMxxxx8752xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURMxxxx5345xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURNxxxx5975xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURNxxxx5498xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURNxxxx1485xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 50 EURVxxxx2588xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 100 EURVxxxx4588xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 20 EURVxxxx8955xxx Jxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 5 EURVxxxx9968xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 200 EURMxxxx9215xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 20 EURNxxxx5895xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 20 EURMxxxx8768xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 10 EURMxxxx2698xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 100 EURMxxxx7624xxx Hxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 20 EURMxxxx8968xxx Hxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 5 EURNxxxx5682xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 20 EURMxxxx7524xxx Hxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 200 EURNxxxx2497xxx Fxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 100 EURVxxxx4698xxx Hxxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)
2009-02-21 20:42:38 50 EURVxxxx7689xxx Exxxxx Bratislava ( Flag for Slovacchia Slovacchia, 82102)

[yli]

Please investigate user dondertje.

I just scored a hit with South Africa, with comment a Belgian bank......

As can be seen from last enteries of South Africa this user entered quite a lot of from a Dexia bank in Kaapstad (Cape Town).

I don't know if there is a Dexia in Cape Town

[suntzu]

Acording to this ... nope

[wally2cv]

I thought wally2cv was a user in good standing, but if I look at the hit list of user wera001 http://nl.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/?c ... user=26665 I get some doubts
2009-02-18 12:46:04 10 EUR Heerlen - Heerlen wally2cv - wera001 0 87
2009-02-18 12:28:22 10 EUR Houthalen-helchteren - Peer wally2cv - wera001 10 87
2009-02-11 22:02:12 5 EUR Sint-truiden - Peer wally2cv - wera001 39 337
2009-02-10 19:25:22 5 EUR Sint-truiden - Sint-truiden wally2cv - wera001 0 336
2009-02-10 19:15:23 5 EUR Sint-truiden - Sint-truiden wally2cv - wera001 0 336

See Topic : Verdachte invoer en gebruikers (page 30)

Al de hits tussen wera001 en mij zijn fake, ze bezorgde mij vroeger biljetten maar volgens mij is ze nu zelf ook al de biljetten aan het ingeven die ze vroeger doorgegeven heeft.

2 wera 3.391

[Flanconfx]

Stella@GPP.de seems to be the old faker Zentralbank after he wrote this in his profile: „Game over 30.000 bills bye for now the next game: new ID; new City; new bills“
again hits with ET users like Zentralbank always had.

[Klazu]

It seems to be, that all the action/fun takes always place on the few days I'm away from the forum. Nevertheless, here is a comment from 21th of December 2004:

...

But none the less - pincopallino and claudiosimone have hundreds, maybe thousands, of clear fake bills! There have been so many evidences. Why can't them be removed? It should also be a pretty simple tasks to erase most of them. This is something I don't understand. There have been evidences against them both for months! I guess the case has been closed for long time ago.

This discussion is from page 182 of this thread, well over four years ago! I repeat: over four years!! PincoPallino was found highly suspicious user already then and he never recovered (my) trust in him within the years following. So for me the removal of his account is nothing surprising, no no. It's just a testimony, that ultimately even obvious fakers get punished. And I want to stress it: ultimately!

I can't help being sad, as I feel that case PincoPallino is being so embarrassing for the EBT community and administration. How things can escalate for years before any actions are taken!? I order to keep people´s faith in EBT we need to identify fakers much earlier, and not let them mess things up for years. If actions are taken only after long time, the impact of removal to people´s faith is then very strong, as can be read from the comments above.

I see lots of improvement being done regarding faker detection and removal, but there is still a long way to go before we can have a (almost) faker-free EBT. A big thank you to the cleaning group for job well done. EBT is again more fun for rest of us.

[presidente]

Could somebody check this hit? Combination serial number/short code doesn't exist, Ulisse123 in the past inserted fake notes...I think this is a notes with progressive number X123456789
..thanks!!!
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=41949371

[ErGo]

I think this is a notes with progressive number X123456789
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=41949371

You are right.

[eddydevries]

It seems to be, that all the action/fun takes always place on the few days I'm away from the forum. Nevertheless, here is a comment from 21th of December 2004:

...

But none the less - pincopallino and claudiosimone have hundreds, maybe thousands, of clear fake bills! There have been so many evidences. Why can't them be removed? It should also be a pretty simple tasks to erase most of them. This is something I don't understand. There have been evidences against them both for months! I guess the case has been closed for long time ago.

This discussion is from page 182 of this thread, well over four years ago! I repeat: over four years!! PincoPallino was found highly suspicious user already then and he never recovered (my) trust in him within the years following. So for me the removal of his account is nothing surprising, no no. It's just a testimony, that ultimately even obvious fakers get punished. And I want to stress it: ultimately!

I can't help being sad, as I feel that case PincoPallino is being so embarrassing for the EBT community and administration. How things can escalate for years before any actions are taken!? I order to keep people´s faith in EBT we need to identify fakers much earlier, and not let them mess things up for years. If actions are taken only after long time, the impact of removal to people´s faith is then very strong, as can be read from the comments above.

I see lots of improvement being done regarding faker detection and removal, but there is still a long way to go before we can have a (almost) faker-free EBT. A big thank you to the cleaning group for job well done. EBT is again more fun for rest of us.

I also remember us once saying "Wow that's honest of them: they confess some of them were cheating and therefor they want to stop". But after a while they started again and we thought: "We're glad they don't quit, but enter notes again."
How wrong we were .

[de-jo]

Cleaing starts up again after the big job...
LGONZAGA - €SDRM - 685 notes deleted

[R/J]

There are still a lot of non-existing D/X 500 in the database, almost all of them (as far as I can see) entered by Ruben_Cruz_017.

[giulcenc]

Now more than 24 hours are past, but this fake-hit is here already: http://it.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=41949371

ulisse123 is a well-known italian user who inserted a lot of fake-notes, all with the same digit or with consecutive digits in the serial number, and not-existing printer/country combinations (like that one, we all can guess which digits are covered by the x in the serial number).

[Zunig]

Maybe, (if people like Pinco can fake for 5 years), there might be something wrong with the whole database alltogether.

I really do not believe anyone from Finland will receive a bill coming from someone else in Finland in North Korea, to be passed to another person in Finland later. (Number 1 distance list)

What I think may have happened is that Tommo (if at all) went to North Korea, taking some bills with him, of which one was a hit from Finland. And not needing to spend euros in North Korea took the same bill home again, spent it in Finland and got another hit from it (there and back from Finland to North Korea takes 15537KM).

I do not believe at all Tommo got the bill in North Korea, or maybe it's from his mother, father, sister, brother or friend or whoever else travelled with him, because the North Koreans are not probable to exchange any eurobills they have to Finnish tourists.

I do not think banks (if any) will let you have euronotes in North Korea either!

I have the same myself, I got three bills from my mother in Sanur, Bali, Indonesia; my mother is no eurobilltracker and I got them from her when we were over there, because she owed me, and I took them back to Holland too. I ask myself if that's fair? They are Dutch notes, which my mother received in Holland, that only happen to have travelled with us, in my mother's wallet going there and in mine on the way back. Maybe it's the same thing that happened to Tommo, but is it fair??? There are no hits yet, but if someone finds them please cancel!

Number 3 on the distance list might be the same kind of thing, from Sangsit (Indonesia) to Scherpenzeel, Nieuwegein-Scherpenzeel doesnt sound as exotic.

I might be on the same list soon, but isn't it a kind of faking????

SURF80 might be just the same person surfing in Hawaii as working in Dortmund? Or his associate or any other accomplice? (Number 4 distance list)

Robin Fox, living in Italy most of the time, but sometimes in Rosario, Argentina??? (Number 5 distance list)

I might be in a cynical mood, but location faking is even easier to do, and harder to undo than bill faking!!!!!

Even though I have nothing to say about Number 2 of the distance list.

Anyone can fake, but do YOU (Pinco, Tommo, Napshu_ ,SURF80, Robin Fox, Cleaning girls) know what really happened??

I'm all for trusting each other, but it must come from all!!!!

yes....good job....well done! i'm so happy to have lost 19 hits from roma to roma.
as 1st hit-partner of Pincopallino i'm surely a perilous user with some strange virus in my notes and i ask to be controlled as soon as possible.
have i to wait for 5 years like pincopallino before someone just erase all my notes?

please let me know(by P.M.) something,before i ask for the complete cancellation of my account.

i don't want answer,just to know for certain that my first hundred thousand notes are untouchable before decide of my future in the project of eurobilltracker.

sorry for my english but i'm very angry.(and not with pincopallino)

And I understand this reaction, because if Pinco (Number 1 till february) can't be sure, loads of shit is being removed, where does it end???

I walk the line......

[STP]

What I think may have happened is that Tommo (if at all) went to North Korea, taking some bills with him, of which one was a hit from Finland. And not needing to spend euros in North Korea took the same bill home again, spent it in Finland and got another hit from it (there and back from Finland to North Korea takes 15537KM).

WTF? Where did you get North Korea? Try maps.google.com sometimes There is a couple thousand kilometers between Roi Et City in THAILAND and North Korea.

[presidente]

I agree with zunig (why not registered??) many work to do in this page!!!
http://it.eurobilltracker.eu/hits/?tab=0;hitsort=km