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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 1:28 pm
by savesigita
ErGo wrote:And some older trash from 2008, but Cleaning Ladies find such notes, even if they are burried very deep in the system:

kidon (114276): 3741 notes deleted

and that's great! so please check another old case: Robin Fox
savesigita wrote:guys it's obvious that user Robin Fox is not from Rosario (Argentina) but from somewhere in Italy (North probably):
look:
https://it.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?c" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... =Argentina

he inserts all banknotes like :note-10: J/S, :note-20: J/S and :note-50: J/S :note-5: E/P E/E E/L and :note-20: G/E in a proportion exactely like any normal italian user!

his first faboulous 3 hits were made with Italians...(that can always be a lucky coincidence but...)

so i saw from user Klaas Klever that it is possible to check the IP

Klaas Klever wrote:(IP´s checked with support tool, 2 accounts with the same IP.)

please check it and I'm sure you'll find out from where he really is!

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:42 pm
by Dioniz
ErGo wrote:a few cookie crumbs from last christmas are now swipped out from the house:

dornbusch2010 (161613): 2861 notes deleted
May I ask what was wrong with those notes? I'm just courious because he hit me on that Christmas night.
ErGo wrote:And some older trash from 2008, but Cleaning Ladies find such notes, even if they are burried very deep in the system:

kidon (114276): 3741 notes deleted
Good job but some real notes were also erased. In 2008 I got 4 his notes (different values) in a bunch. So there were 1 interesting and 3 moderated hits and they were not fake for sure. Just a remark...

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:08 am
by ErGo
Dioniz wrote:
ErGo wrote:dornbusch2010 (161613): 2861 notes deleted
May I ask what was wrong with those notes?
Sure, the notes (or at least a part) were invented.
Dioniz wrote:
ErGo wrote:kidon (114276): 3741 notes deleted
Good job but some real notes were also erased. [...] Just a remark...
Just 3 remarks:

*) to have a hit or not, doesn't say anything, that your partner had the notes really in his hands or just in his mind.

*) if someone is faking, we determine the period, in which he was doing so and ALL notes in this period will be cleaned. We try to keep the impact of deletion as small as possible (eg. sometimes we recognize that a faker is using a special comment), but if there is no mark for a clear distinction between good and bad notes, we take the necessary steps for a cleaner database. Keep in mind: blame the faker, who created the garbage, not the ladies who are removing it!
Dioniz wrote:In 2008 I got 4 his notes (different values) in a bunch. So there were 1 interesting and 3 moderated hits and they were not fake for sure.
*) I checked it: you have not got only 4, you got actually 7 notes - and ALL hits were :note-20:. And indeed, you had the luck to find some of his REAL notes after 3 days. But for creating in 2 weeks more than 3000 notes just in series a faker need some real data :wink:

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:39 pm
by Dioniz
Thanks for the explanation. I know you are not obliged to do that so I appreciate it.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:52 am
by LArdennais
@ErGo : Nice job and thanks a lot for the explanations ! :D BUT...For this following Hit (that WAS a Triple Hit - with dornbusch2010, and now this is a single Hit), ErGo, is this the same explanation than above (note invented) ??? 8O

https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=83347971

So...Friendly Hits between these two duets ???

a) luc2506 & Ferry85 :

https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/ ... ser=177892

4 Hits for Ferry85, only with luc2506...

b) luc2506 & Claudio60 :

https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/ ... user=57676

3 Hits for Claudio60, only with luc2506...

=> All Hits of luc2506 : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/profile/ ... user=23469

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:32 pm
by ErGo
LArdennais wrote:@ErGo : Nice job and thanks a lot for the explanations ! :D BUT...For this following Hit (that WAS a Triple Hit - with dornbusch2010, and now this is a single Hit), ErGo, is this the same explanation than above (note invented) ??? 8O
Yes, the chance is really high.

See, the problem is, if you have only 1 note, you can't often say definitly yes or no, but if you have 100 notes, you can say, there is something wrong or not. And in this case we have enough proofs, that it he was faking in a concret period.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:38 pm
by savesigita
http://en.eurobilltracker.com/profile/? ... ser=180019" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

user Bay and 3 amazing hits in less than 3 hours...

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:54 pm
by an-148
savesigita wrote:http://en.eurobilltracker.com/profile/? ... ser=180019

user Bay and 3 amazing hits in less than 3 hours...
banknotes collectors !!

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:51 pm
by ErGo
And another old cases. Don't be afraid about the number of such cases, the number of fakers is still low, but some years ago there were not enough time to handle such small spoilsports. And they Ladies are still improving their methods...

Mepy (76526): 2658 notes deleted
Mano (11507): 5877 notes
exep (28510): 7937 notes
Lency85 (98449): 662 notes
jeanpierrebentes (68746): 3684 notes
sani2000 (28839): 1391 notes

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 2:16 pm
by Dominic38
savesigita wrote:http://en.eurobilltracker.com/profile/? ... ser=180019

user Bay and 3 amazing hits in less than 3 hours...
In the comment: "report as public serial".

Read here* is too mainstream.

*If you come across such a 'Public Serial', please don't enter the note yourself, but instead contact us at contact@eurobilltracker.com and let us know.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 7:14 pm
by savesigita
Dominic38 wrote: In the comment: "report as public serial".

Read here* is too mainstream.
http://en.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=120916959" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the comment: "wtf?" (=what the fuck?)

should i read something about this, too?!

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:48 pm
by ErGo
If someone thinks today, he can still put his waste in the database, the Ladies will give him the only answer which is possible:

joma747: 25204 notes deleted
meijrink (123317): 913 notes
Luca Alberti (177405): 3 notes

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:57 pm
by ErGo
This user created some years ago fake notes, but in the last time, his notes are looking good. So no restriction on his account:

mark69 (113105): 1852 notes deleted

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:08 pm
by Mkay
ErGo wrote:This user created some years ago fake notes, but in the last time, his notes are looking good. So no restriction on his account:

mark69 (113105): 1852 notes deleted
Still no mr. perfect:

2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx (*) Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)
2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)
2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)

He seems to be entering real notes+invented notes in small series of 3.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 1:26 am
by eddydevries
Mkay wrote:
ErGo wrote:This user created some years ago fake notes, but in the last time, his notes are looking good. So no restriction on his account:

mark69 (113105): 1852 notes deleted
Still no mr. perfect:

2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx (*) Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)
2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)
2013-01-20 19:00:22 10 EURUxxxx9775xxx Jxxxxx Deurne ( Flag for Nederland Nederland, 5751)

He seems to be entering real notes+invented notes in small series of 3.
He's acting stupidly !!
He doesn't get restrictions, because he looks like entering correctly nowadays. And now he makes this "mistake".
So he'll loose the good thoughts about him.