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Posted: Wed May 28, 2003 9:47 am
by avij
francky wrote:I want to enter coordinate for
Radebeul-ost and like i do every time i moderate/unmoderate hit to see the distance without waiting.
But there were a problem, solved now ( thanks AVIJ
), with the "moderate link".
It took me a while to figure out why you'd want to moderate a hit because you're entering
coordinates but then it struck me: Moderating (and unmoderating) has a side effect that removes the cache file for the bill report. Here's what I think what happened:
- You found a hit with a city that didn't have the coordinates inserted into the database
- You added the coordinates
- You moderated the hit so that you could see the new coordinates instantly. However, due to a bug introduced with timezones, the cache file for that note was not removed
- And as the hit was still shown as moderated, you couldn't unmoderate it
Basically, you shouldn't have to moderate a bill just so that you could see the new coordinates, at least it adds unnecessary clutter to the logs (all moderations are logged). I've modified the coordinate system so that it'll remove the cache file as well, so you shouldn't abuse the moderating function this way any more. It'll remove the cache file only for that bill, so if there are other bills from the same location, they will start showing up in the correct location when the cache file times out (currently set at 1 hour).
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 12:44 am
by airis
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx1568xxx Pxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx1568xxx Pxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx1568xxx Pxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Lxxxx4025xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx9785xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-30 00:15:30. Xxxxx1568xxx Pxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx8653xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx8653xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Xxxxx2711xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx8653xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx8653xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Xxxxx2711xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx8653xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Xxxxx2711xxx Rxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Zxxxx6853xxx Txxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
2003-05-29 23:56:08. Lxxxx1589xxx Dxxxxx Berlin ( Germany, 12589)
A serialist?
Posted: Fri May 30, 2003 9:11 pm
by Fons
Yes, maybe it's a serialist, it's also strange it are all Z, L ans X notes.
What was the username?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2003 5:35 pm
by bhoeyb
airis wrote:A serialist?
Looks like one
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:55 pm
by Annie_in_exile
Help, this Eurobilltracking hobby is turning me into a nagging b**ch and I don’t like it! No, seriously, I hate repeating the same things all over, but it seems that nothing has happened since I last wrote here almost 3 weeks ago.
I haven’t seen any other moderator’s comment except for Olivier, who claims he doesn’t have enough time to check the list, neither are there clear rules according to which a hit is considered ”real” or ”fake”. (again, that was Olivier's comment). Come on, isn’t that a basic thing that should be agreed upon by now? Also, if another user raises questions about some hits or the persons behind them, why do you sometimes take immediate action, sometimes nothing happens, but either way, usually there aren’t any public comments from the moderators? If the moderators want to discuss a case among themselves and don’t want the decision to be public, couldn’t you at least send a personal message to the user who has raised the question, clarifying the reasons behind your decision, to moderate or not? Or are you just tired of having so few hits that you want to keep some ”nice-looking” ones on the list only for the sake of popularity? Wake up, you grey eminence, people want answers!
Ok, that was just a warm-up. Now some samples of different kinds of hits. Let’s first get back to my previous questions and Olivier’s comments on them:
Olivier wrote:
Because there is enough time to make possible for the bill to travel... It is possible. On the other hand, if we see this happens regularly, it means that the guys know each other. Then, we could moderate it... For anmi and vee it's obvious they know each other. They should be moderated.
But I repeat: we need precise rules that we have not yet, and hits are not what I am most interested in. I have got any hit yet.
Well, there are now two new hits between A_Chris58 and Summertime who live in the same city (both on 28.5., a few minutes apart). Their connection has also been discussed earlier on this thread (was it page 16/17?) and most hits have been moderated; again, not all. Then there's one more hit, where the note seems to have travelled a longer distance between them. Yes, it is POSSIBLE that the bill has travelled that distance, 456 km. Isn't it HIGHLY UNLIKELY that it should pass through the hands of the same users and no-one else? --For Vee and Anmi there's even another one which wasn't on the previous list:
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... 844673e81f
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m almost sure that there were two hits between Kitty V and Yvonne on 28.5. The first one was quickly moderated, the other one stayed there until it become a 3-point-hit a couple of days later, after which it was moderated. The actual question would be that if you see several hits between two users, shouldn't you moderate them all at the same time, or was it only a mistake that the other one was left in the database? This could also be used as an example: what will you do if you see a new hit between them? Moderate immediately? Wait for comments from other users? What? (Again, this could also be my mistake, I could just imagine that there were two. Anyway, the following one has been moderated, so there's no problem any more.)
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... f5558c060c
Didn’t BogPoet himself ask this hit to be removed?
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... f5558c060c
Nomead asked the older one to be removed. Now there’s an another one between the same users.
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... c1fc27d242
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... c1fc27d242
Geocache notes. Are they considered real hits?
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... f5558c060c
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... f5558c060c
Did anybody read this far? Comments, anyone? We're approaching 300 hits, but can you really say they are "interesting" or "real?
And I'm sorry if this message or I come across as a bit agitated. Don't worry, I'm such a nice person in real life.
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:27 pm
by bhoeyb
Annie_in_exile wrote:Did anybody read this far? Comments, anyone? We're approaching 300 hits, but can you really say they are "interesting" or "real?
Yes, you're right. There should be a new and better moderating system (a team) for the futur
. Who can start? Moderators??
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:43 pm
by Poutsi
I'm no moderator, but I think one of the worst things is that there is no rules gathered to one place. Every time something new happens (like these geocatching hits) it's just discussed in the forum. The next time similar hit occures, moderators can't browse through the whole EBT Forum history trying to find rules concerning that kind of hit.
This leads to situation where no-one will moderate anything because they don't know if they'll do it correctly. My suggestion: Make simple moderating rules and update them if necessary!
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:51 pm
by Antti
I couldn't agree more with you two, the same things have been said like a zillion times before. About how we should get clear rules and so on, this happens with almost every new case but still bothing has actually happened
I say we need more moderators, a team who can make up clear rules for thamselves (and also the other members) and then start really following those rules
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 6:10 pm
by Olivier
Let's keep in mind that the moderation team (on the forum) is not the same team for the moderated hits...
I have stopped moderating hits on the forum. I need more time...
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 12:44 pm
by Elmo
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 11:06 pm
by emmem
Elmo wrote:I want an explanation for these hits between search and eufrl:
When you look at their profiles you see links to kunstpodium and prinsentheater. Both art sites.
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2003 6:09 pm
by sergeverolme
The prinsentheater is a part of the kunstencentrum Groningen
I (search) work for the prinsentheater and eurfl for a other part of the kunstencentrum at a other location.
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2003 1:28 pm
by Elmo
sergeverolme wrote:The prinsentheater is a part of the kunstencentrum Groningen
I (search) work for the prinsentheater and eurfl for a other part of the kunstencentrum at a other location.
Ahhhhh..., that explains everything
. That's all I wanted to know.
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:54 pm
by bhoeyb
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 10:57 pm
by Aaron
bhoeyb wrote: Please block this user: Bames Jond. He is entering fake notes:
...
Hey, are you very sure?