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Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Tue May 25, 2021 11:50 pm
by Oliverve
The Spanish users 2llsll and masalla10 keep increasing their number of hits together (around 480 hits in common from a wide variety of locations and even, counting with more than tweinty triple hits where both take part) and tonight they surprise us with three new hits in common in less than 5 minutes in the same city, the same day, same order of users but coming together from three different original locations:

2021-05-25 20:57:20 10 EURSxxxx1470xxx (*) Sxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:54:33 20 EURUxxxx3306xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:53:34 10 EURUxxxx7613xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391

It is really tiring to see how their hits disrupt the real hit ratio of plenty of cities and villages of their area of inffluence because they are not moderated...

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Wed May 26, 2021 8:04 pm
by Elmo
Hmm, I just had a hit with new :note-5: with VaNuWa. However, I have these bills in my posession. I just sent a picture of the to the Support Team.

2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:57 5 EURZxxxx3134xxx (*) Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:28 5 EURZxxxx3133xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)
2021-05-26 19:52:28 5 EURZxxxx3133xxx Zxxxxx Weelde ( Flag for België België, 2381)

The numbers are not in all in series, there are large holes between the numbers. The first four x'es are all the same, however.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 1:52 pm
by Montgomery Burns
The town of Arequipa and the country of Peru in today's top-10... hopefully there's no foul play. :o

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:50 pm
by Oliverve
Oliverve wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:50 pm The Spanish users 2llsll and masalla10 keep increasing their number of hits together (around 480 hits in common from a wide variety of locations and even, counting with more than tweinty triple hits where both take part) and tonight they surprise us with three new hits in common in less than 5 minutes in the same city, the same day, same order of users but coming together from three different original locations:

2021-05-25 20:57:20 10 EURSxxxx1470xxx (*) Sxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:54:33 20 EURUxxxx3306xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:53:34 10 EURUxxxx7613xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391

It is really tiring to see how their hits disrupt the real hit ratio of plenty of cities and villages of their area of inffluence because they are not moderated...
Two more hits between them in the same city, the same day, at the same time, same order of users but coming together from two different original locations:

2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EURUxxxx8283xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EURUxxxx1696xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)

It seems that nowadays, all roads lead to Cambrils... :x

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 6:54 pm
by Fons
Montgomery Burns wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:52 pm The town of Arequipa and the country of Peru in today's top-10... hopefully there's no foul play. :o
Lots of notes with false combinations. I'm affraid they're fake.
Won't take long to get it cleaned of I'm right ;)

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 12:20 am
by Oliverve
Oliverve wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 8:50 pm
Oliverve wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 11:50 pm The Spanish users 2llsll and masalla10 keep increasing their number of hits together (around 480 hits in common from a wide variety of locations and even, counting with more than tweinty triple hits where both take part) and tonight they surprise us with three new hits in common in less than 5 minutes in the same city, the same day, same order of users but coming together from three different original locations:

2021-05-25 20:57:20 10 EURSxxxx1470xxx (*) Sxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:54:33 20 EURUxxxx3306xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-25 20:53:34 10 EURUxxxx7613xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391

It is really tiring to see how their hits disrupt the real hit ratio of plenty of cities and villages of their area of inffluence because they are not moderated...
Two more hits between them in the same city, the same day, at the same time, same order of users but coming together from two different original locations:

2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EURUxxxx8283xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)
2021-05-27 20:21:02 20 EURUxxxx1696xxx (*) Uxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)

It seems that nowadays, all roads lead to Cambrils... :x
For the third consecutive day, another hit betwen them in Cambrils... :x

2021-05-28 22:32:31 10 EURVxxxx8997xxx (*) Vxxxxx Cambrils ( Flag for España España, 43391)

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 5:02 pm
by ErGo
Fons wrote: ↑Fri May 28, 2021 6:54 pm
Montgomery Burns wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:52 pm The town of Arequipa and the country of Peru in today's top-10... hopefully there's no foul play. :o
Lots of notes with false combinations. I'm affraid they're fake.
Won't take long to get it cleaned of I'm right ;)
And here we go:

Cancerbero (205350): 2664 notes deleted

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Sat May 29, 2021 5:22 pm
by Kleman
ErGo wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 5:02 pm And here we go:

Cancerbero (205350): 2664 notes deleted
Congratulations !
It's always great to win against cancer !

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:16 pm
by erasmuston
There is something fishy in :flag-nl: Julianadorp

2021-06-01 18:30:59 50 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 2464
2021-06-01 18:30:59 50 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 1874
2021-06-01 18:30:59 50 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp Arie SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 152
2021-04-23 23:13:15 5 EUR Utrecht - Julianadorp Tjariet - vliebult@xs4all.nl 91 3008
2020-11-16 18:02:47 50 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 2267
2020-11-16 18:02:47 50 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp Arie SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 411
2019-12-16 17:50:27 5 EUR Oldenburg - Julianadorp mr. & mrs. haemoglobin - vliebult@xs4all.nl 233 405
2018-12-14 15:48:12 20 EUR Glimmen - Julianadorp Vermeer - vliebult@xs4all.nl 129 500
2018-10-29 18:07:19 5 EUR Julianadorp - Julianadorp SubFly - vliebult@xs4all.nl 0 199

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pm
by an-148
public note:

https://www.postcrossing.com/postcards/DE-10198509

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:35 pm
by nossi
an-148 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:28 pm public note:

https://www.postcrossing.com/postcards/DE-10198509
Allerdings ungefährlich, weil keine gültige Seriennummer

But it's safe, because no valid Number

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
by Oliverve
GWR7007 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm
ErGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:23 pm No worry, we didn't:
2llsll (174990): 26524 notes deleted
It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am
by Oliverve
Oliverve wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
GWR7007 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm
ErGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:23 pm No worry, we didn't:
2llsll (174990): 26524 notes deleted
It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.
For avoiding it to be automatically moderated by the system, this morning they have obtained a new hit together with another bill that was entered the same date and place as the one that they have obtained yesterday night... forcely, these two bills have "travelled" together, how could anybody still doubt that these two users are arranging their hits in common? :?

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:32 pm
by Vunono
Oliverve wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am
Oliverve wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:00 am
GWR7007 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 10:02 pm
ErGo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:23 pm No worry, we didn't:
2llsll (174990): 26524 notes deleted
It seems that it didn't have a lasting effect. New consecutive series notes (many with a "mercat" comment) were entered this evening.

2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:43 50 EURVxxxx2966xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:20:07 50 EURVxxxx8316xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:19:18 50 EURVxxxx3571xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)
2021-01-05 21:18:39 5 EURVxxxx6546xxx Vxxxxx Torredembarra ( Flag for Spanje Spanje, 43830)

And I did have the feeling that this hit with VolkerW appeared in the hit list a couple of days ago. However, I would not say that I am 100% sure it really was there....
At that moment, I was not either totally sure if that hit was re-entered since more than 25.000 bills were deleted during the previous days and their links dissapeared but the truth is that I also remembered that he obtained a hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands during last Christmas and some days after the cleaning that his account suffered, he obtained a "new" hit between Peninsular Spain and Canary Islands which seemed to be the previous one; today, it has become a triple hit involving also masalla10... no one else could be rather than him.

And for continuing enlarging their long list of rigged hits, another hit between 2llsl and masalla10 has been obtained today in the same town: after five months wandering around the same town, the bill thas has become a triple hit and another bill entered yesterday in a totally different city, have run into the hands of the same person, curiously the person which has almost 500 hits in common with him.
For avoiding it to be automatically moderated by the system, this morning they have obtained a new hit together with another bill that was entered the same date and place as the one that they have obtained yesterday night... forcely, these two bills have "travelled" together, how could anybody still doubt that these two users are arranging their hits in common? :?
Vunono wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:17 pm
groucho wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 pm Masalla total hits 499. Hits with 2llsll 455
2llsll total hits 527. Hits with Masalla 455

Last 16 spanish hits, 14 Masalla ---- 2llsll
And they are number 1 and 2 in the ranking of Spanish users by number of hits :x
vermeer wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:31 am Well if those 2 Spanish people are "happy" i do not care. With my Tjariet i had 7 hits in 2020, still none in 2021, number 50 was on 28/1/2019 and 100 was 15/12/2017. Before that the inbetweens were more shorter in days.
Don't get tired, Oliverve. I quitted reporting these two users months ago. I think that their hit ratio doesn't look suspicious to moderators living in Finland, Austria or Benelux... What's not so normal is that they're the ONLY users in Spain with such ratio, and that they always find each other's notes in different locations. It's very frustrating that only two users are spoiling the statistics of a whole country, but I already lost hope that any hard measures will ever be taken against them.

Re: Suspicious notes and users

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:48 pm
by klapotec
Vunono wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:32 pm I think that their hit ratio doesn't look suspicious to moderators living in Finland, Austria or Benelux...
If anyone wants to become a hit moderator, send a mail to contact@eurobilltracker.com or send a forum message to gergapsek (head of the support team). Currently we only have hit moderators from Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, the Netherlands, and Slovenia, so we could definitely use some people from other countries.
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