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Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:57 pm
by anto989
what about :note-20: p/l and :note-20: e/u?

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:06 pm
by vermeer
P011 L24
E (France) is U (France) normal

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:27 pm
by kfb2
What about :flag-mt: and :flag-cy: :note-20: ?

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:59 pm
by Dioniz
anto989 wrote:what about :note-20: p/l and :note-20: e/u?
I've got:
:note-20: P/L 5x
:note-20: E/U 4x
kfb2 wrote:What about :flag-mt: and :flag-cy: :note-20: ?
I'm waiting. They should be printed in NL (G printer code) like those for Slovenia. But we've got new :note-20: G/P pooling notes and not :note-20: G/H as some expected.

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:03 pm
by anto989
Dioniz wrote:what about :note-20: p/l and :note-20: e/u?
I've got:
:note-20: P/L 5x
:note-20: E/U 4x
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are they pooling notes?

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:37 pm
by Dioniz
anto989 wrote:what about :note-20: p/l and :note-20: e/u?
Dioniz wrote:I've got:
:note-20: P/L 5x
:note-20: E/U 4x
are they pooling notes?
No, :note-20: G006, G007/P are pooling notes in Slovenia, because officially they are Dutch (P code). That's why I'm a little sceptical about new letters F for Maltese and G for Cypriot :note-20: notes that will be issued this year. They might be P-notes as well. :roll:

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:20 am
by fcbruges
Today, the Luxemburg Central Bank made its annual report 2008 public;
it states they have produced 13,2 million :note-20: in 2008; these notes have been printed by Delarue.
If you are looking for these notes, they are the :note-20: H006/L260, and they are quite hard to find!
(the E003/ L250-L259 are the real finnish notes produced in 2007)
(the G005-G006 / L261-L283 are the real finnish notes produced in 2008)
(still no finnish notes produced in 2009 found)

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:01 am
by Dioniz
What about :note-20: P/L? Mine are L245, L247, L249.

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:31 pm
by R/J
Dioniz wrote:What about :note-20: P/L? Mine are P245, P247, P249.
I believe the P/L were the 2006 Finnish notes. I remember seeing this once on the forum, but I can't remember were it is.

And I've looked for it, here it is:

http://forum.eurobilltracker.com/viewto ... 27#p652227" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Though he turned out to be wrong about the H/L's and I was wrong, P/L were the 2005 Finnish :note-20:, they apprently printed their E/L :note-5: in 2006.

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:50 pm
by Dioniz
Thank you for this info!

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:16 pm
by R/J
(Because this is one of the things about the euro that interests me, and I don't know if the info all together can be found somewhere else.)

This is a list of where the Luxembourg banknotes were printed, according to the annual reports of the Luxembourg Central Bank, with my conclusion after the arrow (->).

Trichet Signature:
2009 - There should be :note-20: this year.
2008 - printer H, 13,3 million :note-20: -> H/L
2007 - printer G, 9,6 million :note-100: -> G/P (The Netherlands also printed :note-100: in 2007)
2006 - printer H, 10,2 million :note-100: -> H/L (Likely only the H002, as Finland printed :note-100: in 2004)
2005 - printer F, 4,8 million :note-500: -> F002/N
2004 - printer R, 1,9 million :note-500: -> R/X (Similar to 2007, Germany also printed :note-500: in 2004)

If I'm correct, notes printed 2003 and before have Duisenberg's signature:
2003 - printer R, 1,9 million :note-200: -> R/X (Similar to 2007 and 2004, Germany also printed :note-200: in 2003)
2002 - printer D, 30 million :note-100: -> D/L (A surprise, at least to me. These are probably the D002/L :note-100:, or part of it; Finland printed :note-100: a year later)

Pre-introduction: I cannot find it.

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:46 pm
by Al s'é pers
R/J wrote:(Because this is one of the things about the euro that interests me, and I don't know if the info all together can be found somewhere else.)

This is a list of where the Luxembourg banknotes were printed, according to the annual reports of the Luxembourg Central Bank, with my conclusion after the arrow (->).

Trichet Signature:
2009 - There should be :note-20: this year.
2008 - printer H, 13,3 million :note-20: -> H/L
2007 - printer G, 9,6 million :note-100: -> G/P (The Netherlands also printed :note-100: in 2007)
2006 - printer H, 10,2 million :note-100: -> H/L (Likely only the H002, as Finland printed :note-100: in 2004)
2005 - printer F, 4,8 million :note-500: -> F002/N
2004 - printer R, 1,9 million :note-500: -> R/X (Similar to 2007, Germany also printed :note-500: in 2004)

If I'm correct, notes printed 2003 and before have Duisenberg's signature:
2003 - printer R, 1,9 million :note-200: -> R/X (Similar to 2007 and 2004, Germany also printed :note-200: in 2003)
2002 - printer D, 30 million :note-100: -> D/L (A surprise, at least to me. These are probably the D002/L :note-100:, or part of it; Finland printed :note-100: a year later)
So, if I'm not wrong, this mean that if Luxembourg decided to use its serial numbers starting with R, we should now have in circulation notes with these combinations: :note-100: D/R, G/R and H/R; :note-200: R/R; :note-500: R/R and F/R; :note-20: H/R. Or am I wrong?
(This is a thing I even was curious to know, thanks for the info!)

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:48 pm
by fcbruges
2009 - :note-20: Will be/have been printed by G; serial will begin with P, F, G or H (or who knows R?!!)
2008 - :note-20: printer H, 13,3 million -> H006/L260
2007 - :note-100: printer G, 9,6 million -> only the G008/P0600-P0626 I think (The Netherlands also printed in 2007, G008-G009/P0251-0528)
2006 - :note-100: printer H, 10,2 million -> H002/L230-233 (H001 (L220-227) printed for Finland in 2004)
2005 - :note-500: printer F, 4,8 million -> F002/N
2004 - :note-500: printer R, 1,9 million -> R/X (Germany also printed R/X in 2004, so ???)
2003 - :note-200: printer R, 1,9 million -> R/X (Germany also printed R/X in 2003, so ???)
2002 - :note-100: printer D, 30 million -> D001/L112-L128 (the D002/L (+ a few sheets of D001 that remained) for Finland in 2003 (23million) (L129-L141))

For the introduction, they signed contracts with G and R (only for the :note-10: ) for 46 million notes in total:
:note-5: 6 million G/P
:note-10: 3 million R/X
:note-20: 13 million G/P
:note-50: 11 million G/P
:note-100: 3 million G/P
:note-200: 2 million G/P
:note-500: 8 million F/N (due to an agreement between G and F to pool the production of the :note-200: and the :note-500:)

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:23 pm
by R/J
fcbruges wrote:2009 - :note-20: Will be/have been printed by G; serial will begin with P, F, G or H (or who knows R?!!)
Just one thing to add: for these shortcode will be G007 or possibly even higher.

Edit: and a small comment on the H/L :note-20:, if there are 13 million of them, shouldn't there be L261 as well?

Edit2: To Al s'é pers: Yes you are correct, with the addition of the pre-introduction G/R :note-5: :note-20: :note-50: :note-100: :note-200:, R/R :note-10: and F/R :note-500:.

Re: Rare Euro banknote

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:18 am
by fcbruges
yes, there should be H006 / L261 as well, but I have not seen them until now. The first G / L reported so far start at G / L262.
By the way, I have not figured out the numberingsystem of these H/L yet; did anyone get this?

Hopefully we will see R-notes in the future; but there probably will have to be a change in the Luxemburg constitution first!?
It appears that there is an article in the Luxemburg constitution, whitch is interpreted in such a manner that Luxemburg cannot print any "Luxemburgian" (is this correct??) banknotes without the Grand-Duc being printed on them.
This is also the case with the Eurocoins; just have a look at the common commemorative 2€-coins (2007 - Treaty of Rome; 2009 - 10 years of EMU) with that little addition to the common design showing the Grand-Duc's profile.