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Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:42 pm
by g.s.51
Da correggere: "Scopriremo l'ordine nascosto nella numerazione belga..."

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:02 pm
by philgelico
Ho preso visione della vostra lista di banconote e ora state annunciando una :note-20: Z002/ZB invece della :note-20: Z002/ZA precedentemente annunciata. Quindi, finalmente, g.s.51, questa nuova :note-20: Z002/Z sarebbe, secondo voi, una ZB? Ne siete sicuri?
Add : Ho trovata una seconda :note-20: Z002/Z oggi, sta cominciando a diventare comune....

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:17 pm
by g.s.51
La curiosità della numerazione belga relativa all'intera serie EUROPA avrebbe potuto indurre la tipografia a stampare una Z002/ZC **44 o **45 o **46...
Ordina la carta da seguire! :mrgreen:

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 11:36 pm
by mico
philgelico wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:02 pm Ho preso visione della vostra lista di banconote e ora state annunciando una :note-20: Z002/ZB invece della :note-20: Z002/ZA precedentemente annunciata. Quindi, finalmente, g.s.51, questa nuova :note-20: Z002/Z sarebbe, secondo voi, una ZB? Ne siete sicuri?
Add : Ho trovata una seconda :note-20: Z002/Z oggi, sta cominciando a diventare comune....
potrebbe essere un :note-20: :flag-eu: Z002/ZH come già visto per i :note-20: :flag-eu: V003/VH della :flag-es: Spagna :arrow: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=11539&start=75#p1165006

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:02 am
by LArdennais
:note-20: Z/Z002 trovate da philgelico :

https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188714998 :arrow: ZCxx47501xxx ?
https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188687739 :arrow: ZCxx47383xxx ?

Solo una semplice ipotesi ...

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:38 am
by philgelico
LArdennais wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:02 am :note-20: Z/Z002 trovate da philgelico :

https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188714998 :arrow: ZCxx47501xxx ?
https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188687739 :arrow: ZCxx47383xxx ?

Solo una semplice ipotesi ...
careful : this banknote : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188714998 is NOT a Z002/Z
this banknote : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188687739 is NOT a Z002/Z

My two Z002/Z are : Zxxxx5198xxx and Zxxxx5022xxx

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:29 am
by LArdennais
philgelico wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:38 am careful : this banknote : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188714998 is NOT a Z002/Z
this banknote : https://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=188687739 is NOT a Z002/Z
:arrow: Z001xx / ZAxx07501xxx and Z001xx / ZAxx07383xxx ? ;)
philgelico wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:38 am My two Z002/Z are : Zxxxx5198xxx and Zxxxx5022xxx
Jackgaillard wrote: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:17 am Philippe found on monday :note-20: Z002E1
:arrow: ZC5455198xxx and ZCxx55022xxx ? ;)

Solo una semplice ipotesi ... ;)

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:24 pm
by philgelico
LArdennais wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 10:29 am :arrow: ZC5455198xxx and ZCxx55022xxx ? ;)

Solo una semplice ipotesi ... ;)
LArdennais, grazie di fammi ridere un po con sue "ipotesi"..... chè sarano sempre è per sempre "ipotesi" ;)

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:49 pm
by Sky
Ma perché tutto questo mistero?

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:13 pm
by philgelico
Sky wrote: Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:49 pm Ma perché tutto questo mistero?
on EuroBillTracker, you can see only the first letter, and four numbers in the middle . It's the rule of EBT, therefore i only respect the EBT rules. When I play a game, I respect the rules,. If you play football, you respect the Football rules, don't you ? I play EBT, and I respect EBT rules.
- i was not the one who announced here the :note-20: Z002/Z , but someone else.
- Then i was not the one who announced that my :note-20: Z002/Z was a :note-20: Z002/ZA, but someone else.
When i read this, i had to be obliged to inform these people that my :note-20: Z002/Z was NOT a Z002/ZA .
Now, who is to blame about this "mistero" ?

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:43 pm
by fcbruges
Mistery solved!

Someone in northern France has entered a Z002

Serialnumber is ZC**650, as could be expected, thus following the same logic as with the other Europa-series notes from Belgium.

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:05 pm
by lmviterbo
FINAL EDIT: THE FOLLOWING INFO IS WRONG, SORRY ABOUT MY MISTAKE. (The links are correct though.)

There's both ZB and ZC for :note-20: Z002. The German EBtor MARIUS-FFB has found a ZB and announced it on the EuroBillTracker Facebook group (his name on FB is Marius Hanslik).

First edit: I deleted the initial "If fcbruges's source is reliable" after fcbruges has provided a source (see the following post).

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:18 pm
by fcbruges
Well, it is the note entered by jackgaillard on EBT
.
You can see the relevant part of its serialnumber on his Ebtst Page from dserrano.

I do not have facebook, so I can only see the original post from jackgaillard, but not the replies.

There is no space left to print them in ZB, except if the first 2 numbers (for the position on the plate) would be higher than 60 or if the printer would use the same serialnumber for different values.

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:52 pm
by lmviterbo
Thanks, fcbruges.

I hadn't noticed that the Z/Z numbers haven't been repeating throughout the different denominations. Are you claiming that MARIUS-FBB's note may be an error?

Re: Nuovi plate (New plates)

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:41 pm
by fcbruges
As I noted before, there is no more space for ZB-notes if the printing numbering logic of the past years is respected.
What did Marius-fbb write exactly (I cannot read that, since I do not have facebook)?