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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 6:10 pm
by mizar
davidzaz wrote:+BBBB+ wrote:It's the final countdown. Less than 30 days left for the release of the new

notes!
Yes!, one moth to

DE, CY, EE, GR, ES, FR, IE, IT, MT, LU, NL, AT, SI, SK, FI

As I mentioned earlier, in serial letters this means most likely NPRSTUVY (of which NST have been seen already), maybe also EWX and HJ, but not MZ.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:17 pm
by HBoZ
For those who can't wait to compare notes

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:17 pm
by Jackgaillard
mizar wrote:Yes!, one moth to

DE, CY, EE, GR, ES, FR, IE, IT, MT, LU, NL, AT, SI, SK, FI

As I mentioned earlier, in serial letters this means most likely NPRSTUVY (of which NST have been seen already), maybe also EWX and HJ, but not MZ.[/quote]
are you shure that PT

(M) and BE

(Z) can't expect new

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 5:44 pm
by mizar
Jackgaillard wrote:mizar wrote:davidzaz wrote:Yes!, one moth to

DE, CY, EE, GR, ES, FR, IE, IT, MT, LU, NL, AT, SI, SK, FI

As I mentioned earlier, in serial letters this means most likely NPRSTUVY (of which NST have been seen already), maybe also EWX and HJ, but not MZ.
are you shure that PT

(M) and BE

(Z) can't expect new

I'm not sure

But in the past they printed very little for foreign central banks, unlike some other printers.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:41 pm
by Craft
HBoZ wrote:For those who can't wait to compare notes

BTW, I don't like the arch on the new

, it is architecturally wrong. On the first series note the arch "grows" from the top of the columns, which is correct. On the new series note however, the arch is extended onto the wall, which is not correct, and therefore the arch is huuuge compared to the doorway. The arch therefore now consists of a lot of unnecessary semicircles, whereas on the first series note the arch only consist of the necessary semicircles but not more.
I think that Mr. Gerstetter has somewhat lost the point (or not been aware of the point) in his new series, compared to Mr. Kalina's first series.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:30 pm
by nossi
Craft wrote:HBoZ wrote:For those who can't wait to compare notes

BTW, I don't like the arch on the new

, it is architecturally wrong. On the first series note the arch "grows" from the top of the columns, which is correct. On the new series note however, the arch is extended onto the wall, which is not correct, and therefore the arch is huuuge compared to the doorway. The arch therefore now consists of a lot of unnecessary semicircles, whereas on the first series note the arch only consist of the necessary semicircles but not more.
I think that Mr. Gerstetter has somewhat lost the point (or not been aware of the point) in his new series, compared to Mr. Kalina's first series.
Interesting point of view

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:49 pm
by tabbs
Hard to tell. Yes, in Romanesque architecture the size of the arch is usually determined by the distance between the columns on the left and right. Then again, Kalina did pretty much the same, except that his "extension" of the arch is much more abstract. What I like about Gerstetter's variation is that he added the tower and the apse. Is the redesigned note better? Nah. Worse? I don't think so either ...
Christian
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:45 am
by Craft
tabbs wrote:Then again, Kalina did pretty much the same, except that his "extension" of the arch is much more abstract. What I like about Gerstetter's variation is that he added the tower and the apse.
Kalina's extension of the arch seems to be only plain wall, which is typical in Romanescue buildings. The upper edge is round shaped, true, but that seems to me only a part of the note's general graphic design (there are several round elements all around the arch). Gerstetter has now changed the wall to a definite arch. What I mean is that Gerstetter may have mistakenly interpreted Kalina's graphic representation of surrounding wall as extension of the arch.
Gerstetter's designs make the images on the notes (arches and bridges) to seem like miniatures or toy models, little objects. Kalina's images are more like technical drawings, but they don't appear toy models. They are lighter than Gerstetter's versions.
The tower and the apse are good additions, I agree.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:22 pm
by Craft
Two and a half weeks now, although I suppose that it will take more than that to get hold of the first new tenner here... The introduction of the new fiver was quite slow in Finland, if my memory serves me right.
And I think there will be people who are not willing to accept the new tenners at first, thinking that the bills cannot be genuine money. Many people will not have heard of the new version from any media.
The €20 bill is my favourite (theme, colour) in the eurobill series. It will be interesting to see how it will be redesigned. If the schedule is similar to the one with fivers and tenners, it will not take many more months until the new twenty is unveiled. Probably in January.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 4:04 pm
by GWR7007
Yesterday, I was at the German Federal Bank in Frankfurt am Main and there they said, that they'll give out the new

from September 23rd. I'll probably go there a day later (Sep. 24th) to see, whether I can get some

.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:19 am
by Elmo
I was at the National Bank of Belgium in Liège today and they had Greek Europa

on display:
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:11 am
by LucasFr
Was it a real note? Or some oversized poster?
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:57 am
by ErGo
Elmo wrote:I was at the National Bank of Belgium in Liège today and they had Greek Europa

on display:
Was the serialnumber visible? I am very interested, if they changed the way of encoding the positioninfo into the serialnumber.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:23 pm
by debemaks
Me toooo!!!!!

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2014 5:14 pm
by avij
There are now
T/T Europa fivers in circulation as well, beware.