Suspicious notes and users

hafla · Post by **hafla** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:25 pm

The next hits are very suspicious:

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18274033
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18274034
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18250222
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18201558
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18227383
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18227382

On one day these hits between the same people, but different value's, locations and travelingtime.

BouletBillstarted EBT on the day of his hits and immediately has this hits out of only 9 notes.

JokkeM is a member for only one month and has this hits out of only 103 notes.

pepitopulpito · Post by **pepitopulpito** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:53 pm

Nerzhul wrote: I also restored the 4920 notes I had deleted earlier, because Catalonia1714 was able to convince me of their validity.

We were wondering here in the Spanish forum what explanation did he give you about the validity of his serials...

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:02 pm

@pepitopulpito: I don't know this case so clear (was there only serials or hit into them?), but I'm also curious.

pepitopulpito · Post by **pepitopulpito** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:08 pm

Klazu wrote:@pepitopulpito: I don't know this case so clear (was there only serials or hit into them?), but I'm also curious.

I think that only serials... but some hundreds I think... and really fast

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:27 pm

That's maybe a reason to watch out for such user but not to delete him. If I would work in a bank or other place with lots of money I would try to enter only brand new serials since they are so fast and easy to enter. So serials aren't faking. Maybe a bit suspicious in huge amounts.

pepitopulpito · Post by **pepitopulpito** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:47 pm

Klazu wrote:That's maybe a reason to watch out for such user but not to delete him. If I would work in a bank or other place with lots of money I would try to enter only brand new serials since they are so fast and easy to enter. So serials aren't faking. Maybe a bit suspicious in huge amounts.

Absolutely agree with you. Entering serials is not always faking, that's true. But sooner or later, a serial faker will fall in a hit into serials...
Anyway, in the Spanish forum we have curiosity to know how did this user get so many serial notes in such a short period of time...

Post by **Nerzhul** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:12 pm

I don't really want to discuss this matter publicly, you'll have to trust my judgement in this (and all other suspicious) case(s). The privacy of our users is most important to us.

pepitopulpito · Post by **pepitopulpito** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:25 pm

Nerzhul wrote:I don't really want to discuss this matter publicly, you'll have to trust my judgement in this (and all other suspicious) case(s). The privacy of our users is most important to us.

OK

hafla · Post by **hafla** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:12 am

debemaks wrote:This is a joke, isn't it???

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18274034
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18250222
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18201558
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18227383

They are FAKE like croccodile drops! (It's the translation of an italian proverb! )

2 days from Kololi (i think Gambia ) to Wavre

BouletBill gathered today, entered 9 bills and made 4 hits?!!?!?

And they still have this hit left.
I think BouletBill is the same as JokkeM and should be deleted as a user.

There is even more fraude:
JokkeM entered a bill on june 12in Kololi Gambia.
On june 11 he was still in Brussel and on june 13 he was back again having a different postalcode.
So he travelled 4562 km and back in less then 48 hours.
I think he is a big faker as well and should also be deleted.

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:33 pm

Seems that notorious Postkutsche abused Eurotracer again:

EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=1258027
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... l=5&page=7 (Nr. 186)

This is not the first time, please stop this!

hafla · Post by **hafla** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:03 pm

Licht & Feuer wrote:Seems that notorious Postkutsche abused Eurotracer again:

EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=1258027
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... l=5&page=7 (Nr. 186)

This is not the first time, please stop this!

I don't agree.
These are the notes he entered at the same time:
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18353184
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18353185
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18353188
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=18353190

To find the last 3 digits which are stars at ET you would experct them to be a series. This in not the case.
I think he was just lucky.

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:30 pm

hafla wrote:To find the last 3 digits which are stars at ET you would experct them to be a series. This in not the case.
I think he was just lucky.

I can't believe it anymore, he has too many hits like this, also I think the person behind this is to clever to force the whole serie together in the system but 1 by 1 during a couple of weeks hidden between real or other reconstructed test notes until he finally found the hitnote (and indeed he scores hits like this +/- every month!) .
The same was done by Kredithai (1 - 2) and could been proofed with the beta-site, as well as attempts to reconstruct notes of androl in this way which he finally not found.
I hope there will come an internal security-feature that checks the database for hits into hidden consecutive serials.

debemaks · Post by **debemaks** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:19 pm

Well, telling the truth, I won't argue about this guy if is a faker or not, but I've tried to make the faker in the beta site. I've looked for codes in internet and at 70% they are all hits!

Then I went to ET and got a nice serial. At the 7th note I entered I got the hit!
So I changed and I got another one, at the 22nd I made the hit --> I entered 500 codes generated on the base of ET and I got 6 hits.
But i really belive that I case of being a true faker, I'll keep some codes from ET and i'll generate serials to put together with real notes I have.
So, i belive that just Euromasters can solve this matter, just analizing the notes this dude has typed! If is a hit in serials I'd be delated otherwise he's lucky!

joergb30 · Post by **joergb30** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:53 pm

Licht & Feuer wrote: I can't believe it anymore, he has too many hits like this, also I think the person behind this is to clever to force the whole serie together in the system but 1 by 1 during a couple of weeks hidden between real or other reconstructed test notes until he finally found the hitnote (and indeed he scores hits like this +/- every month!) .
The same was done by Kredithai (1 - 2) and could been proofed with the beta-site, as well as attempts to reconstruct notes of androl in this way which he finally not found.
I hope there will come an internal security-feature that checks the database for hits into hidden consecutive serials.

I agree with you and I hope that these "hits" will be removed as a result.

* 2006-03-24 18:08:14 Kassel - Cottbus joergb30 - Postkutsche
2006-03-24 18:08:13 Kassel - Cottbus joergb30 - Postkutsche
* 2006-03-20 21:21:22 Kassel - Cottbus joergb30 - Postkutsche
2006-03-22 16:14:44 Kassel - Helgoland joergb30 - helgeland
* 2006-03-18 22:49:02 Kassel - Helgoland joergb30 - helgeland

hafla · Post by **hafla** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:38 pm

Licht & Feuer wrote: I can't believe it anymore, he has too many hits like this, also I think the person behind this is to clever to force the whole serie together in the system but 1 by 1 during a couple of weeks hidden between real or other reconstructed test notes until he finally found the hitnote (and indeed he scores hits like this +/- every month!) .
The same was done by Kredithai (1 - 2) and could been proofed with the beta-site, as well as attempts to reconstruct notes of androl in this way which he finally not found.
I hope there will come an internal security-feature that checks the database for hits into hidden consecutive serials.

You convinced me.
As even joergb30 wants his own hits with him removed it must be true.

The best thing to do is stick to EBT en don't enter your notes on ET as well.