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Re: euro or euros

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:41 pm
by Dakkus
The columns for indefinite and definite form get even more pointless now that there are all the time more and more euro countries that don't make a difference between those two. Currently there are three: Finland, Slovenia and Slovakia. Other ones to join soon: Latvia, Lithuania, Czech Republic, Estonia. Poland probably not in the near future. For what I know, Bulgarian doesn't have definite or indefinite forms, either. Although that one will take even longer than Poland.. (Unless the Polish are /really/ stubborn, of course).
Also, judging from how they say "I am an apple" in Icelandic, Icelandic also apparently has no indefinite article. I'd guess the definite one is quite likely to be missing, as well.

In any case, I see the table as one more symptom of the culture imperialism of the countries in the western central Europe.

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:52 pm
by CarlosManta
Dakkus wrote: see the table as one more symptom of the culture imperialism of the countries in the western central Europe.
8O
Those imperialist pigs trying to impose the names of the currency. Everyone should call it whatever they want!
:D
I am also not a fan of the central bureaucracy that rules the Union, but come on, we need a name for the currency, and some rules on how to refer to it in official documents.
If someone charges me 60 eurorna for a pair of shoes, I have no clue what they mean... Imagine if the mandatory insurance for shipping road goods is 0,2 eurorna per ton...

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:11 pm
by Dakkus
CarlosManta wrote:
Dakkus wrote: see the table as one more symptom of the culture imperialism of the countries in the western central Europe.
8O
Those imperialist pigs trying to impose the names of the currency. Everyone should call it whatever they want!
:D
I am also not a fan of the central bureaucracy that rules the Union, but come on, we need a name for the currency, and some rules on how to refer to it in official documents.
If someone charges me 60 eurorna for a pair of shoes, I have no clue what they mean... Imagine if the mandatory insurance for shipping road goods is 0,2 eurorna per ton...
Of course you wouldn't say "the 0,2 euros" in that kinda situation. And, if you are buying stuff in the mythical Swedish shop selling stuff in Euros, you should indeed expect all signs in the shop to be written in Swedish.
In any case, making a table like that assuming all languages work according to the same rules the five big ones use /is/ a bit arrogant. In my eyes that kind of stuff implies forgetting the diversity of EU and simply assuming that all of us are the same or easily forceable into being the same. If the table will be used by people not speaking Finnish for writing some diagrams in "Finnish", it is quite likely to produce incorrect (and through that, possibly misunderstandable) language, because the fields for definite and indefinite forms are somewhat randomly filled with forms that only partially overlap the actual meaning of the fields.

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:06 pm
by eddydevries
:idea: I've got the solution !!!!!

We don't use 4 euro either 4 euros, but €4 :wink: .

Than everybody is happy :D .

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:41 am
by R/J
eddydevries wrote: :idea: I've got the solution !!!!!

We don't use 4 euro either 4 euros, but €4 :wink: .

Than everybody is happy :D .
Not completely, some countries use 4 €, some €4, some € 4.

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:02 pm
by doiknow
Dakkus wrote:And, if you are buying stuff in the mythical Swedish shop selling stuff in Euros, you should indeed expect all signs in the shop to be written in Swedish.
Well I think CarlosManta recently visited Höganäs:
http://sydsvenskan.se/ekonomi/article40 ... ganas.html
(maybe on of the reasons some swedish registered here after Jan 2)

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 6:42 am
by Craft
japh wrote::lol: unfortunately the plural of mouse is mice.
Oh, sure! Silly me :lol: (I guess I was concentrating in the Swedish words only :roll: )

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:10 pm
by Nelly
In Bulgarian there's a plural form for other currencies, but no plural for euro in the official language, only in an unofficial talk when referring to banknotes & coins, you can use a plural. But there's a plural for cents, like for the American one.

Re: euro or euros

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 12:14 pm
by Nelly
Dakkus wrote: For what I know, Bulgarian doesn't have definite or indefinite forms, either.
Bulgarian has definite forms and they're written together and after the word, for each gender - a different form.
The definite form is very easy- just use the first 2 letters of "this " for the gender, example: dete(child)+ tova ("this" for neuter)= deteto(the child)
And if it is for euro plural, you can't use the plural officially at all here. If Englishmen want to use plural for euro and want to look highly educated, may they write Euro without s(good if it's with an uppercase e in EN for the European currency- EN adjectives are capitalized).