highest short-code

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:54 am

I'm just wondering why French have so much higher short codes than other prints. As far as I know, the number means how many times the printing plates have been renewed. Have they had a lot of bad luck with the printing plate quality or what

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:11 am

Or... they are printing so many notes.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:27 am

Anonymous wrote:Or... they are printing so many notes.

That can't be possible. Just think about Germany; it's so much bigger than any other EMU country that they must have printed more notes than anyone else. Besides, Germans don't pay by plastic as often as others do. Still, the highest German shortcode is much smaller than the highest French shortcode.

Angelino · Post by **Angelino** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:16 pm

The guest was me.... Sorry

Higher french: L025 (20 €)
Higher german: R020 (50 €)

There are two 'great' printers in Germany (P and R), and only one (L) in France (E printer made two plates only).

France export 20-euro notes to another european countries. But, what is the higher french shortcode for 5 € notes??? It's very lower than 25, or the highest 50-euro french shortcode?, lower than german I think.

Fons · Post by **Fons** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:40 pm

Angelino wrote: There are two 'great' printers in Germany (P and R).

That letter is for two banks, one in Munich and one in Leipzig, at that way it's not strange they made the most notes.

Why don't they have a letter per bank?

Elmo · Post by **Elmo** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:53 pm

Aaron wrote:I'm just wondering why French have so much higher short codes than other prints. As far as I know, the number means how many times the printing plates have been renewed. Have they had a lot of bad luck with the printing plate quality or what

At the end of 2000 I saw an item in the news about euro countries who
were behind schedule with printing bills. According to that item France was
far behind because they have very old printing machines, and they don't
want to get rid of them. That might explain why the French shortcodes are
so much higher.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Wed Nov 19, 2003 8:34 am

Angelino wrote:There are two 'great' printers in Germany (P and R), and only one (L) in France (E printer made two plates only).

A good point - I thought this too but then I remembered that each printer is specialised on different notes; for example, 10€ is always R and 20€ is P. So this can't be the reason.

Elmo wrote:At the end of 2000 I saw an item in the news about euro countries who
were behind schedule with printing bills. According to that item France was
far behind because they have very old printing machines, and they don't
want to get rid of them. That might explain why the French shortcodes are
so much higher.

I think this could explain it - they have made a lot of non-marketable notes which they haven't been able to put to the circulation.

I wonder what's the amount of notes you can normally print with one plate. I think the amount is quite high as we haven't seen any D002** notes in Finland yet. Of course the amount of notes is much lower here but still...

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:07 pm

Aaron wrote:
Angelino wrote:There are two 'great' printers in Germany (P and R), and only one (L) in France (E printer made two plates only).
A good point - I thought this too but then I remembered that each printer is specialised on different notes; for example, 10€ is always R and 20€ is P. So this can't be the reason.

Speaking of X-notes: they are printed by two companies at 3 locations in DE:
R is Bundesdruckerei in Berlin,
P is Giesecke & Devrient in Munich and in Leipzig

P printed 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100 notes
R printed 10, 50, 200 and 500 notes

Aaron wrote:I wonder what's the amount of notes you can normally print with one plate.

It's less the number of notes, but the number of sheets, which can have up to 6x10 notes, but also just 4x6 notes. It also depends on the color: the blue and red of 5-20 notes is chemical in nature, while the orange of the 50's is an earth color, such that plates wear down faster than for the other colors. One plate might last for about 1 miilion sheets, maybe less.

lmviterbo · Post by **lmviterbo** » Fri Nov 28, 2003 5:18 pm

Updated my post again with 2 new highest codes:

N002G5 (Y, 10€)
T002D5 (Z, 20€)

Well, my own personal records, only... But I'm still proud of them

Lou Crazy · Post by **Lou Crazy** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:52 am

Today I entered an italian note with a short code of J013B2
It's a 50E note with a serial starting in S088
I got it yesterday morning, and I believe it was just taken out of an ATM.

Angelino · Post by **Angelino** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:44 pm

My highest italian 50 € note was an J009. Do you know if J010, 011 and 012 bills exists?

Lou Crazy · Post by **Lou Crazy** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 5:54 pm

Angelino wrote:My highest italian 50 € note was an J009. Do you know if J010, 011 and 012 bills exists?

I found 5 such notes with a j011 short code
No J010 or J012 yet

Fons · Post by **Fons** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 9:00 pm

Angelino wrote:My highest italian 50 € note was an J009. Do you know if J010, 011 and 012 bills exists?

I had 3 J010-notes, the were all €20
My highest Itatian €50 is J009

btw: Congratulations with your hit!! Spanish hits are quite unusually, so you were lucky, it was a very new user. Did your wrote the URL on that note?

Angelino · Post by **Angelino** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:14 pm

No. I don't like to write on the notes.

Thank you for your message. My next hit will be an international hit.

These are the italian short codes I know:

5 €: J001 to J003, and J005.

10 €: J001 to J005

20 €: J001 to J006, and J010 (Fons)

50 €: J001 to J007, and J009,and J011, and J013 (Lou Crazy)

100 €: J001 to J007.

200 €: J001.

500 €: J001.

ItalianMoney · Post by **ItalianMoney** » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:37 pm

This is my Italian short code:

5 €: J001 to J005
10 €: J001 to J005
20 €: J001 to J008
50 €: J001 to J009 and J011 and J014
100 €: J001 to J005 and J008 to J010
100 €: J001
200 €: J001

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