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Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:04 am
by lmviterbo
Adding my two cents to ahm's answer to YCNZ question:
  • I actually don't know what will be the numbering strategy after they run out of numbers on the current scheme. For the first series ("2002"), central banks fell quite short of being forced to decide on it: the last printed French tenners were U**99. Now, for the Europa series, they are running out of numbers faster. So, the central banks who might have to deal with this problem have probably already decided on that.
  • YCNZ skipped "UI" on their hypothesis. Unless it's just a typo, I don't see any reason for the French printer to skip the letter I. It's already used in printer codes (shortcodes) and it's not easily confusable with the digit 1.
  • I would guess that the next sequence won't start with G. Here's my reasoning: second letters H and X have been used (in Austria, Germany and Spain, until now) presumably to print test notes (even though some of them have been issued). I presume that these particular letters were chosen because they are the only ones which value is 0 (zero), in the checksum calculation. So, if they want to reserve H for test notes, than the second sequence of second letters must start after H. My guess is that the next sequence will be I, J, K, L, M, N. It's also convenient that it stops just short of the confusable O.

EDIT: I had written "last printed French tenners were U**95", after looking at giulcenc's 1U table. I thought this was not correct but didn't bother to check. I was sleepy… Trollix kindly rectified me.

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 11:16 am
by TROLLIX1
petite rectification,
sur la première série des 20€ , la France a été jusqu'à Uxx99, puis à imprimé 4 séries commençant par U85 jusqu'à U88 avec les positions des billets juste aprés les 85 86 87 88

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:00 pm
by YCNZ
Thank you all for your replies. No it was not a typo, I omitted "I" on purpose. So since I now have FR/IT covered, I will bother you some other time about the numbering system of Belgium and Ireland .. 8)

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:56 pm
by g.s.51
Chamalières U/U's French numbering system covers 100 million sheets or 5.4 billion banknotes. What can we imagine after the U**99 charge? Anything is possible! It is likely that the French printer has already developed the next ...
One can imagine for example 1) UF5 = A1, UF6 = A2 etc up to UK8 = I6 or
2) UG0 = A1, UG1 = A2 etc up to UL5 = I6
I don't think the letter H is a problem, because VH and XZ are special prints, so-called tests. VH therefore encompasses the entire print, indicated by the long code of the control number.
For Chamalières, on the other hand, the letter H would only correspond to precise positions in the printed sheets, which is very different.
The answer will come in a few years, after the exhaustion of the numbering system UA0 to UF4 ... :D

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:35 pm
by g.s.51
I'm correcting a typo:
The numbering system of Chamières U/U goes from UA0 = A1 to UF3 = I6 (not UF4).
For the following bets are open... :mrgreen:

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2020 8:05 pm
by g.s.51
Chamalières U/U's French numbering system covers 100 million sheets or 5.4 billion banknotes. What can we imagine after the U**99 charge? Anything is possible! It is likely that the French printer has already developed the next ...
One can imagine for example as the result of a result of the current system ;
1) UF4 = A1, UF5 = A2 etc up to UK7 = I6 or
2) UG0 = A1, UG1 = A2 etc up to UL3 = I6 or
3) another numbering system of Chamalières...
I don't think the letter H is a problem, because VH and XZ are special prints, so-called tests. VH therefore encompasses the entire print, indicated by the long code of the control number.
For Chamalières, on the other hand, the letter H would only correspond to precise positions in the printed sheets, which is very different.
The answer will come in a few years, after the exhaustion of the numbering system UA0 to UF3 ... :D
Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

by YCNZ » Fri Aug 07, 2020 12:00 pm

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 2:25 am
by leofer40
:note-20: M005I6, MC35, Amadora, 2020/06/23 (MD)

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 7:12 pm
by scrtr
New plate

:note-20: U034D4 / U**787

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Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:22 am
by Seltaeb
:note-5: :flag-fr: :flag-eu: E001I4 EC071 Lagarde Serie Europa Santander (7/8/2020)

:note-20: :flag-fr: :flag-eu: U034I5 U**760 M.D. Serie Europa Santander (12/8/2020)

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Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 8:48 am
by jack_isidore
:note-100: E011D5 EA761 found in :flag-at: vienna

draghi.

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:59 pm
by leofer40
:note-20: U025I5, M*971, Amadora, 2015/12/23 (2002 serie - MD)

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:08 am
by YCNZ
Y003F4 - YA109, entered it but I do not have it any more sorry.

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:41 pm
by YCNZ
YCNZ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:08 am Y003F4 - YA109, entered it but I do not have it any more sorry.
Edit: And that is a 50. Dear Lord, where is my mind gone...

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:01 pm
by TheUndertaker
YCNZ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:41 pm
YCNZ wrote: ↑Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:08 am Y003F4 - YA109, entered it but I do not have it any more sorry.
Edit: And that is a 50. Dear Lord, where is my mind gone...
and presumably with a draghi signature ?

Re: Highest Short Codes (Updated on 07.01.2020)

Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:42 pm
by g.s.51
Yes, with Draghis signature... :note-50: