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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 1:58 pm
by androl
P0000-P0064 ==> G001
P0065-P0069 ==> G006
// unknown zone
P0100-P0307 ==> P001
// unknown zone
P0315-P0709 ==> G006
P0710-P0741 ==> G007
P0747-P0747 ==> G008
P0754-P0781 ==> G009
P0785-P0786 ==> G006
P0792-P0792 ==> G009
P0801-P1015 ==> G010 Trichet
P1016-P1016 ==> G011 Trichet
P1022-P1082 ==> G010 Trichet

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 2:19 pm
by Angelino
OK!!!! Great list.

P1083, P1094 & P1095 are G010 too (they are common in Spain, pooling banknotes)

P1099 are G011.

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:50 pm
by Fons
alex77r wrote:
j3paris wrote:Some :flag-fr: :note-5: L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Ireland :flag-ie: months ago... 8O

I got a :note-5: L015 note today, so it's actually a note 'from' Ireland?

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 10:14 pm
by alex77r
There is also a few of them in Paris...but it is more possible that your note is from Ireland I think, or it is a fast note :P

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:47 pm
by bhoeyb
Fons wrote:
alex77r wrote:
j3paris wrote:Some :flag-fr: :note-5: L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Ireland :flag-ie: months ago... 8O

I got a :note-5: L015 note today, so it's actually a note 'from' Ireland?
I had my 2nd :note-5: L015 today.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:18 pm
by j3paris
alex77r wrote:There is also a few of them in Paris...but it is more possible that your note is from Ireland I think, or it is a fast note :P
bhoeyb wrote:
Fons wrote:
alex77r wrote:
j3paris wrote:Some :flag-fr: :note-5: L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Ireland :flag-ie: months ago... 8O

I got a :note-5: L015 note today, so it's actually a note 'from' Ireland?
I had my 2nd :note-5: L015 today.
I've now gotten over 50 brand new (or very close to new) :note-5: L015s at different times in different places in and around Paris over the past few months...I think we can safely say now that they didn't all get pooled to Ireland, and that some ultimately did get released in France...

Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:49 pm
by alex77r
BTW, I withdrawed some of them (new) from an ATM of the "Banque de France" ...in the center of Paris in May 2006.

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:50 pm
by Licht & Feuer
In Greece I got my very first L015- :note-5: as well as my 1st and 2nd G-printed V- :note-10: :)

:note-5: L015 is very circulated and U**379
:note-10: Nr. 1 is G003 and V017**
:note-10: Nr. 2 is G005 and V013**

... but as it seems they aren't that special anymore :(

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:06 pm
by Licht & Feuer
Licht & Feuer wrote:
Elmo wrote:Are there more people who have found Dutch fivers with G006 as shortcode
instead of G007?
The NIG-Tool tells me that I found my only :flag-nl: G006 :note-5: within the last three months, serial-no. is P056***
A dutch G006- :note-5: is lying in front of me right now, serial-no. starts with P059**

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Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 9:24 pm
by Fons
VERY special at the moment, I only had 3 of them untill now, I saved all of them :)

Elmo saved his one too!

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:44 pm
by ye olde
Apart from Irish 500 Euro notes, one of the rarest notes, I believe, are the irish 10 Euro notes numbering from

T203456***** up to including T203649*****

even if they exist, they must be the most rarest note of them all.

Any other proposals ?

ICU

ye olde


By the way: Have I written down too many figures ?? I hope not, because I do not want to upset the system.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:13 am
by androl
I wouldn't say they are rare, it's a too small intervall to say so. But what is special about them is the numbering system, because I don't know how to get the printer code from them. I have made a hypothesis about them that matches for one of the two notes I know of, but for the second note it is off by one (it's a T2036165 and I don't know why it is K001H1 and not K001I1), so the hypothesis is possibly wrong.
(So if one of you has such notes in his CSV, you could help me by sending me the first 9 digits of the serial and the printer code)
(and ye olde, you mean Irish, not Dutsch, right?)

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:44 am
by ye olde
androl wrote: (and ye olde, you mean Irish, not Dutsch, right?)
You are absolutely right, I couldn't disagree less - I meant Irish - not double Dutch !!!! :lol:

ye olde

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 7:12 pm
by ye olde
@ androl

As this seems to be a forum, where hits are the only interesting items to the participants, maybe nobody really understands, what you and I are talking about.

For this reason, I thought to explain the numbering system of the irish 10 Euro notes a bit.

One item on a ‘collectors agenda’ is the numbering system of all Euro banknotes. From what we (I mean some collector friends and I) have seen in the Irish system, is the position of a note in the sheet is shown in the first few digits of the controlnumber.

Take the 10 Euro note:

The first figure ‘2’ indicates, this is a 10 Euro note. (1 stands for 5 €, 3 stands for 20 €, 4 = 50 €, 5 = 100 € and 0 = 500 €).

The next figures show the position on the sheet.

The first 10 Euro notes printed (K001) started with the numbering at position A6 and this position comprised of 5 figures, i.e. T*00000*****. Furthermore A6 was given to 4 numbers in a row, i.e. T*00000***** up to including T*00003*****. The next position B6 was given the numbers T*00004***** up to including T*00007***** and so on until one arrived at position I1, the last on the sheet – and I1 had the numbers T*00212***** up to including T*00215*****.

After theoretically having printed 40,000 sheets (4 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*00216*****, but this time A6 was given 50 consecutive numbers up to including T* 00265*****, which meant, all positions had 50 consecutive numbers and I1, the last note on the sheet had T* 02866***** up to including T*02915*****.

After theoretically having printed 500,000 sheets (50 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*02916*****, only this time each position was given 10 consecutive numbers (A6 = T*02916***** - T*02925*****; I1 = T*03446***** - T*03455****).

After theoretically having printed 100,000 sheets (10 x 10,000) one could think, the Central Bank of Ireland would start afresh at position A6 with the number T*03456***** - but this not the case, and this is the mystery.

We have found a hole in the numbering system, which we cannot understand. Between T*03455***** and T*03650***** we could not find a system at all. With the introduction of the number T*03650***** at A6 the system up to today is immaculate, the position is now shown with 4 digits only, each position is given 5 numbers and each printing charge has a theoretical print-capacity of 500,000 sheets.

But what happened with the numbers T*03456***** up to T*03649***** ? Up to today we have just seen two banknotes with these numbers, one is T203527***** F4 (found in Austria in 2004) and the other T203616***** H1 (found in Germany in 2006), both of which do not fit into any numbering scheme we can think of. Mathematics do not give us an answer, i.e. each sheet consists of 54 banknotes - but the difference between 3649 and 3456 is 193, and whichever way I calculate, this number cannot be divided by 54 or any other number, even if the sheet size has been changed, 193 is prime !!

Has the Central Bank of Ireland used this area of numbers for the printing of replacement notes ?? or does a system exist, which we have not deciphered ??

For this reason, I (and certainly, you androl as well) would really like to know of any findings in that region. I promise, no hits will be shown, in case anyone on this forum will dare tell me a controlnumer of an irish 10 Euro note with numbers ranging from T*03456***** up to T*03649***** inclusive.

Any comments from the hit-seekers ???

ICU

ye olde

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 8:07 pm
by aplfi
Well, here is one for you

:note-10: T*03505***** K001G5 :flag-ie: Cahersiveen CO. Kerry, Mike Murt's bar 2005-12-05