EuroBillTracker

JordiJanTaxi wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 6:20 pm

TheUndertaker wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 5:15 pm

Chrattac wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:51 pm Any idea about this ? Found in Finland had to check a couple of times if my vision didn't lie to me.

Printed in Bulgaria („for Germany“) by Oberthur it’s a subsidiary company from the Printer Oberthur or non as the printer with the Shortcode E

I wouldn't dare to say "for Germany", although the first F banknotes appeared there. In the beginning, "paper painting" used to belong to national banks. That's why banknotes had one letter in the serialnumber, and another one, different, in the printer code. Thus, all french banknotes were U serial, although there were two printers in France, L and E. All german banknotes were X serial, although there were also two printers, R and P. But sometimes, for reasons I cannot understand (although I made up my own [maybe mistaken] reasons), some bills were printed in OTHER countries (dutch 5ers and german teens printed in France, italian 50ers printed in Austria, german 50ers and spanish teens printed in The Nederlands, Portuguese 50ers in United Kingdom, etc.). Also, for the national banks accounting, countries that did not have a printer, had also their own letter: E for Slovakia, H for Slovenia, G for Cyprus or F for Malta. But all (most of?) those bills were printed in Germany (R), France (E) or the Nederlands (G). Later, since some time between 2010 and 2012 (not sure), the banknotes emission does not belong any longer to national banks, but to European Central Bank. That's why since 5ers were issued in 2013, all europa banknotes have the same letter in the serialnumber and the printer code. This letter does not refer to any country, but to the printer. So there are three letters in Germany: X for Bundesbank, R for Gesiecke & Devrient in (Stuttgart?) and W for Gesiecke & Devrient in Leipzig. Finally, E is Oberthur in France, and F is Oberthur in Bulgaria.

Regards.

Elmo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 28, 2019 9:52 pm I have asked the ECB about the banknote production figures for 2020, and this was their reply:

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Denomination Quantity (mln. banknotes)  Value (mln. €)  NCBs commissioning production
€5                               751.6        3,757.8   BE, IE, AT, PT
€10                            1,185.8       11,858.1   DE, ES
€20                            1,271.0       25,419.8   EE, FR, CY, LU, MT, NL, SI, SK, FI
€50                            1,751.9       87,596.5   GR, ES, FR, IT, AT
€100                             763.8       76,380.0   DE, LV, LT
€200                                 -              -   
€500                                 -              -                             
TOTAL                          5,724.1      205,012.2

JordiJanTaxi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:10 pm How does then ECB count which banknotes are comissioned to which National Central Bank? And, if the banknotes still belong to NCBs, why don't they keep having country letter in the serial number and printer code according to printing facilities? Or will we see again banknotes witg D, G, H, and new other letters for SK or MT since E and F have been taken by other printers? Or, otherwise, where will Estonian, Cypriot, Maltese, Sloveninan and Slovakian banknotes be printed?

ebt1106 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:12 pm

JordiJanTaxi wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:10 pm How does then ECB count which banknotes are comissioned to which National Central Bank? And, if the banknotes still belong to NCBs, why don't they keep having country letter in the serial number and printer code according to printing facilities? Or will we see again banknotes witg D, G, H, and new other letters for SK or MT since E and F have been taken by other printers? Or, otherwise, where will Estonian, Cypriot, Maltese, Sloveninan and Slovakian banknotes be printed?

I don't think ECB counts. ECB decides in advance, which NCB will commission how many banknotes of a certain nomination during the next year.

Some NCBs have inhouse printing works and some don't. (Or e.g. in the case of Germany they commission more banknotes than the inhouse printing works can handle.)

For those orders that are not done inhouse there will be a public tender.

E.g. https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTIC ... XT:EN:HTML is a tender by the bank of Ireland over 135.26 million 5 EUR banknotes for 2020.

Some NCBs provide the details only to qualified companies, but the Bank of Ireland seems to make a lot (everything?) public:

https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publi ... lowPrint=1

As an answer to one question we see that all these banknotes will be delivered to the Bank of Ireland. In which country they will eventually be brought into circulation is probably not made public. It's quite obvious that most of them will not be determined for Ireland in the end.

Since the Europa series the commissioning NCB is no longer visible on the banknote. So these 135.26 million banknotes will just have the letter of the printing works that wins the tender. I have no idea why this change compared to series 1 banknotes has been made,

So now we know that out of the 751.6 million 5 EUR notes for 2020 135.26 million are commissioned by the Irish NCB, I haven't investigated whether BE, AT, and PT all have public tenders. If not we might never know how many 5 EUR notes they commission. I also don't know whether it will be made public who wins the Irish tender. Maybe the winning printing works make a press release?

ART wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:20 pm https://www.numizon.com/en/news/record- ... euro-note/

ART wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:20 pm https://www.numizon.com/en/news/record- ... euro-note/

ART wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:20 pm https://www.numizon.com/en/news/record- ... euro-note/

magneto wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:55 pm is a new combo, not predict yet from the admin, he gonna fix it soon