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Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:46 pm
by Arminius
There are many ways to damage an aluminium foil, heat acids, .....
We can only guess.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:56 pm
by ahm
Interesting news: Bundesdruckerei (

R) will probably produce

soon.

Why? Because right now they tender printing ink and protective coating for ES2-10.
Links:
Printing ink:
https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTIC ... HTML&src=0
Protective coating (German: Lack):
https://ted.europa.eu/udl?uri=TED:NOTIC ... HTML&src=0
As Germany is responsible for printing

in 2021, it seems as Bundesdruckerei won the contract for it. So, we will probably see

R/R next year.

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:28 am
by Matesi1976
I received my first

banknote with Christine Lagarde signature in

Athens, Greece yesterday. Its plate number is Y003E2 (issued by the

Bank of Greece).
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:29 pm
by inDUS
Received uncirculated today at Commerzbank in Duesseldorf.
Also W006/WA62
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:02 pm
by Matesi1976
Today I received in

Athens a

banknote with Christine Lagarde signature, issued by

Banque de France. Its serial number starts with UC982 and its shortcode starts with U037.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 pm
by Elmo
On the
Dutch forum, Vermeer claimed to have found a Lagarde

E009/
EM, which he is unable to insert at the moment.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:51 pm
by vermeer
Here a larger one:

- IMG_0086_2.jpg (1.7 MiB) Viewed 10416 times
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:44 pm
by bumboozel
vermeer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 2:51 pm
Here a larger one:
IMG_0086_2.jpg
Wow, that’s interesting news.

Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:14 pm
by g.s.51
Can you say, if the position of your E009 / EM is C4 ?
Thanks !
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 4:55 pm
by avij
Elmo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:49 pm
On the
Dutch forum, Vermeer claimed to have found a Lagarde

E009/
EM, which he is unable to insert at the moment.
These are allowed to be entered now. It is possible that a page reload or browser cache clearing is needed. Don't be alarmed if the input field turns red (although it should turn green now). It is possible to enter the notes (now) even if the serial number field is red.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:29 am
by ahm
And another surprise...
I can think of two possibilities (or a combination of both):
1) a testnote just like XZ, NZ or VH - the

gets a coating as the

and

already have, maybe these notes were the first ones to try it out.
2) brand new from the 2021 order with a second letter without (officially communicated) meaning, just like EC (

or

) RP, TC, TD, ZD etc. - in 2021 a lot of countries order

DE,
EE, CY, LU, MT, NL, SI, SK, FI, IE, FR, IT.
FR and IT will print the bills by themselves -> U and S. The others all tender the printing: the countries marked in blue usually tender together (-> 1 contract), DE does it seperately, IE probably as well. So we might have 3 different contracts that might go to one or more of E, F, R or W.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:25 pm
by ahm
The ECB website was redesigned recently and the well-known
Banknote production page now lacks the 2021 figures.
As I saved the information on it, I'll put it in here for "archivation purposes"

(978.3 million)
BE -> E,F,W or R;
ES will probably reach VC (my highest is VB97);
AT will be probably NC again, maybe also ND (Austria often used a new letter for a new production - like

second batch: NB, third batch: NC, :note-10 second batch: NB);
PT -> M/M

(1.1761 billion)
DE -> probably R/R (Bundesdruckerei already tendered ink and coating), if the contract will be split then additionally E,F or W;
GR -> Y/Y

(1.4036 billion), see above post - even more from U/U, S/S and three tenders -> E,F,W and/or R - E009/EM is already here.

(1.9514 billion)
DE usually tenders together with
LV and
LT -> E,F,W or R;
FR-> more U/U;
IT -> S/S and
ES -> more V/V, probably VC as well (VB99 already exists)
I don't really know why some of the supposed 2020 order still have Draghi's signature (

M006, M007

V011,

N001) - maybe they printed ahead to avoid production peaks. The 2021 production should all come with Lagarde signature.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:07 am
by uvy
Is there any chance with X (G+D, Munich) banknotes signed by Lagarde?
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:49 am
by g.s.51
Unless I am mistaken, it seems that printer X has ceased to operate.
Re: "Europa": 2nd series of euro banknotes
Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:59 pm
by TheUndertaker
uvy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:07 am
Is there any chance with
X (G+D, Munich) banknotes signed by Lagarde?
They closed in 2015 we won’t see any X notes in the future