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Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:10 pm
by jrnsndrs
I don't expect one until the Estonian D-notes appear.
On the
NIG-Homepage there is a message about a Java-based version of NIG. (scroll down to 2-10-2009.) I hope Java-NIG is growing well and healthy.
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 7:32 am
by marty44
Is there any chance of a new release of NIG?
Here is a short list what's missing:
E/E 5, E/F 5, E/G 5, E/H, E/X 10 , E/X 200, G/X 50 are generally not recognized
Trichet U/M 10, J/S 10 are not recognized
sorting is wrong: G/Y should be AFTER G/X
Draghi note P/X 10 note not recognized (and all signatures charts and stats needs updates too)
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:19 pm
by chrishos04
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:29 pm
by dserrano5
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:35 pm
by Ewri
looking forward to it, Dserrano
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:46 pm
by Crazy Bob
Wow, I'm looking forward to seeing your results! Good job
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:39 pm
by jrnsndrs
Good luck with the development of this new NIG!
(May I call it that name?)
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:12 pm
by dserrano5
I completely fail at naming things. Its tentative name is "EBT stats tool"
or "EBTST". Suggestions welcome!
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:29 pm
by jrnsndrs
dserrano5 wrote:I completely fail at naming things. Its tentative name is "EBT stats tool"
or "EBTST". Suggestions welcome!
I have no problems with this. It says exactly what the tool does and there is no attempt in being funny or creative.
(Such attempt tend to fail horribly so thank God you didn't try!)
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:20 am
by lmviterbo
I guess EuroBillStats (or EBS, if you shorten it) would be enough. And better, I think.
If you prefer a fancy acronym, ENDS would do (for Euro Note Data Statistics); or ENDAT (for Euro Note Data Analysis Tool). Or even EBT-DAD (for Data Analysis Device) — usable in sentences such as "DAD says I've been mostly passive, as a hitter at least" or "Your DAD needs an upgrade".
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:32 pm
by tralla
Eurobill Analysis Distribution and Statistics (EADS).
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 10:58 am
by asmo_26
I indeed think a small update is in order. We now have eurobills with three different ECB presidents signatures for instance.
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:02 pm
by chrishos04
It's frustrating if the bugs are not corrected. I've just remarked that the E/X
are counted as Duisenberg notes...
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:48 pm
by jrnsndrs
chrishos04 wrote:It's frustrating if the bugs are not corrected. I've just remarked that the E/X
are counted as Duisenberg notes...
Those aren't bugs but signs that NIG is outdated. See the Trivia-section:
E/X is shown as a 'new or suspicious combination'. Another sign is that with some combinations (for example E/H) you can score 2/1. NIG says only
is available, but recognizes
as valid.
But whatever it is, it is frustrating.
Re: NIG (NoteInfoGenerator)
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:29 pm
by dserrano5
I think I'll have some spare uninterrupted time today and I'd like to get some input on NIG's codes_*.txt files so I can make EBTST read them. This seems to be a complex issue and I think it's good for me to have a place to ask things where experienced users can comment.
From what I can see:
- A "Group" in the file translates into an HTML table in NIG's output. Conceptually I think a group represents a single view on the whole country, although it seems that this isn't always the case (e.g. "Group=Districts of City of Helsinki/Helsingin kaupunginosat" in codes_finland_kaupunninosat.txt).
- If there are "SubGroup"s, then this HTML table reflects them by using these light yellow rows. Optional SubFlag for each one.
- Tables have an associated country, which is clear given than their last column is e.g. "% of
notes". The only place where the relevant country appears is in the name of the txt files. However there doesn't seem a reliable way of extracting it. There are conflicting file names like codes_cape_verde.txt (where "cape_verde" is the country name) and codes_finland_pa.txt (where "finland_pa" is not the country name). I'll probably do this in a different way.
Regarding the types of lines within a (sub)group:
- post code ranges "00000,00000=name": any location that lies inside the given (inclusive) range appears as an HTML row with the given name, regardless of the location name in the CSV.
- single code "00000=name": special case of the above.
- single code+name "00000;PlaceNameinCSV=name": apparently used to both rename and group specific places with a given name and post code.
- single name ";PlaceNameinCSV=name": same than above but less specific by disregarding the post code.
Is the above accurate/complete? Am I forgetting/neglecting/misunderstanding something?
Now, if I look for overlapping or conflicting entries I easily find this example in the codes_germany.txt file:
Code: Select all
Group=Berliner Bezirke (Districts of Berlin)
// PLZ 10119,10179,10247,10367 [...] are all within more than one district
10119=Mitte (Mitte/Tiergarten/Wedding)
[...]
10119=Pankow (Prenzlauer Berg/Weißensee/Pankow)
What should happen to a note entered in 10119? Is it to be assigned to both districts? (which affects the totals and percentages) To none of them? (ditto) To a random one? (yielding different results depending on the phase of the moon).
I'm sure I'll find more interesting cases…
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