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Virtual tourist guide for people visiting Finland
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:19 am
by avij
If you have questions about travelling to Helsinki (route planning, hotels/hostels/spare rooms, other places in Finland worth visiting etc), feel free to use this topic for your questions.
This doesn't need to be question-oriented though -- if you know of a good way to arrive to Helsinki or know some other thing that's worth sharing with the rest of us, please tell us!
I'll move some of the messages from other topics to this topic, don't be alarmed if you see some old messages in this topic.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 6:19 am
by lmviterbo
The cheapest flights I find on the web from Lisbon to Helsinki are close to 400 €. Does anyone know if there's any cheaper option?
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:17 am
by avij
One option might be the following:
1) use your preferred method to go from Lisbon to Porto (some
269 km)
2) fly with Ryanair to London Stansted (price: 69,99 €)
3) fly with Ryanair to Tampere (price: 19,99 €)
4) take the bus 61 from the
airport to central Tampere (some 17 km, 2,90 €)
5) take either a
bus (some 140km, about 17,55 €) or
train (22,40 € - 28,40 € depending on which type of train you choose) to Helsinki.
These calculations suggest that a one-way trip would cost something between 110 and 120 €, excluding the costs for the trip between Lisbon and Porto. Please note that prices may change and are dependant on the travel time. Also worth noting is that Ryanair doesn't fly to all the destinations every day, so final planning should be done when the date has been set.
It may be possible that some friendly EBTer from Tampere might assist you with your travels at the Tampere (Pirkkala) airport (ie. take you to central Tampere or directly to Helsinki).
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:23 am
by avij
Another option is
Germanwings:
Lisbon - Cologne-Bonn: 67 €
Cologne-Bonn - Helsinki: 25 €
(the same disclaimers as in my previous message)
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 11:59 am
by avij
Some useful links:
Finnish Hotels,
Eurohostel,
City of Helsinki
SN Brussels Airlines -- I used this myself for EBTM04
Finnair -- usually not the cheapest, but if all else fails you can try this
If you're coming by car, you'll need to travel across Denmark and Sweden. From Stockholm you can take the ferry, either to Turku (on the southwestern coast of Finland) or Helsinki. The ferries of
Viking Line and
Silja Line could be classified as floating hotels. If you just want to get from Sweden to Finland and don't want anything fancy, you may want to consider
SeaWind Lines because their fares are cheaper. SeaWind operates only between Stockholm and Turku, though.
If you're coming by car you could also take the Baltic route through Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and then take a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki. There are quite a lot of options, take your pick.
As for timing, if the meeting is to be held in Helsinki, I think we'll have to rule out the weekends 5-7th August and 12-14th August because Helsinki will probably be quite crowded in early August. The
10th IAAF World Championships in Athletics will be held here between 6 - 14 August. 5000 - 20000 foreign tourists are expected to visit Helsinki during the event, so the hotels and such will probably be all reserved. This restriction only applies to Helsinki, other candidate cities are free to use those weekends for the meeting if they want.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:48 pm
by aplfi
avij wrote:One option might be the following:
1) use your preferred method to go from Lisbon to Porto (some
269 km)
2) fly with Ryanair to London Stansted (price: 69,99 €)
3) fly with Ryanair to Tampere (price: 19,99 €)
4) take the bus 61 from the
airport to central Tampere (some 17 km, 2,90 €)
5) take either a
bus (some 140km, about 17,55 €) or
train (22,40 € - 28,40 € depending on which type of train you choose) to Helsinki.
These calculations suggest that a one-way trip would cost something between 110 and 120 €, excluding the costs for the trip between Lisbon and Porto. Please note that prices may change and are dependant on the travel time. Also worth noting is that Ryanair doesn't fly to all the destinations every day, so final planning should be done when the date has been set.
It may be possible that some friendly EBTer from Tampere might assist you with your travels at the Tampere (Pirkkala) airport (ie. take you to central Tampere or directly to Helsinki).
Or take direct Ryanair bus from Tampere-Pirkkala to Helsinki 25€
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:23 pm
by Ralf
I have looked today for a flight to Tampre.
It cost me 215€ for Helsinki I'll look this week.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:43 pm
by Speukes
Ralf, you pay €30 at Ryanair if you can reach Hahn airport in Germany. Köln-Helsinki should be about €25 with Germanwings.
We'll get good advise about cheap tickets from other forum members when we know where to go.
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 10:52 pm
by Ralf
Yes Frankfurt - Tampre - Frankfurt = 40€ but by train from home till Frankfurt is 175€
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:06 am
by lmviterbo
Wow! Thanks a lot, avij!!

(And thank you aplfi, too.)
How did you find these? You just knew RyanAir and GermanWings were pice-winners and looked for flights there, or do you know some cheapestflights.com site or something like that?
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:08 am
by avij
Ralf, Ryanair uses
Frankfurt, Germanwings uses
Köln. Köln is somewhat closer to you and thus the train trip should be cheaper as well. In fact, according to
Deutsche Bahn, a train trip from Bergen op Zoom (which I suppose is close to your city) to Köln
costs 33,90 €. To get to the airport from the Köln Hauptbahnhof,
this link should be informative. Once you're at the airport, you can fly with
Germanwings to Helsinki and from there you can continue wherever you want, including Tampere.
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 11:16 am
by Ernst
Well, I might just ad that it is impossible to get to Frankfurt-Hahn(Ryanair) directly by train. Those coming from direction Netherlands should go to Köln anyway. From there you can take a shuttle bus that takes 2 hours(10€). There is also a shuttle bus from Frankfurt which takes 1:45.
The Köln/Bonn airport is easy to reach from Köln and there are also direct train connnections from Düsseldorf, which might be useful for some people coming from the Netherlands
And don´t get confused, "Frankfurt Hahn" is over 100 km west of Frankfurt. About 200 km from Liège....
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 12:30 pm
by Ralf
Thanks Avij for your great help!
But that 33,90 is a bit strange because when I take a ticket here is more expensive

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:31 pm
by bhoeyb
Ernst wrote:And don´t get confused, "Frankfurt Hahn" is over 100 km west of Frankfurt. About 200 km from Liège....
I will never use "Frankfurt-Hahn" airport again in my whole life. I still have a bad feeling what happened last time going to that "tiny airport in the middle of nowhere" -I still feel sorry to Ellinoora and Heidi

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they missed their flight.
I can tell you, Brussels South (Charleroi) is the centre of the world comparing with Frankfurt-Hahn!
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:10 am
by TwilightZone
@ Giberski and others :
remember that although Finland is a land of large distances, Tampere is "only" 180 km north-west from Helsinki. That is 1h45 by train , 2h by car or ~2h30 by bus. I am sure the interested ones will have no problems getting there on a daytrip (or similar).
For Belgian and Dutch people, another option for you how to get to Tampere if you don´t want to go to Hahn:
Ryanair flies from Eindhoven to Stanstedt and there you can transit to Tampere. Price shouldn´t be too high
Only problem is that you´ll have to spend some hours in London because the schedules aren´t optimal.