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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by aloxe » Mon May 14, 2018 11:00 pm

Yet nothing incorrect… Just a new city not yet complete here

Březno is a village in the obec of Postoloprty. None of the two are yet on EBT. Březno has a different postcode (440 01)than Postoloprty (439 42) like most of the villages around… Because Březno is a common vincinity name in Czech republic, I wrote Březno (Postoloprty) to avoid confusion with other Březno despite the correct post code. Feel free to name it differently.

Ah, yes, I almost forgot, the other divisions of Postoloprty are
- Okres: Louny
- Kraj: Ústecký
- Country: Czechia
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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by lmviterbo » Mon May 14, 2018 11:28 pm

Thanks, aloxe.

I need further clarification before changing anything.

Wikipedia tells me that:
  • Postoloprty is both a town and a municipal area.
  • The municipal area includes several cadastral communities, one of which is Březno.
  • In Czechia, the term 'katastrální obec' (cadastral municipality) was replaced by the new term 'katastrální území' (cadastral area) since 1928 according to the 177/1927 Sb. n. a z. Cadastral Act".
  • Březno is apparently also a village, not only an obec / územi.
If all the above is correct, I can do the change. (Notice that everything is just like you said, except for the small and irrelevant cadastral nomenclature.) I just need to be certain that Březno is an independent village, not just some administrative or cadastral division within the town of Postoloprty. (Villages and towns are all called "city" for EBT purposes, but administrative/cadastral divisions are not.)


If nobody opposes, I will name the "city" just Březno, without any detailing — that is, not "Březno (Postoloprty)". Within that region there is no other Březno, so I suppose the system deals with that as well as with any other common place name in other countries. Please someone who is city-admin or just knows the system better than I do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by aloxe » Tue May 15, 2018 12:37 am

lmviterbo wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 11:28 pm

[*]Březno is apparently also a village, not only an obec / územi.[/list]
nope, this is not an obec (in the sense of a municipality), it is a čast města Postoloprty (district of the town of Postoloprty). The thing is it has a different postcode than the central district which is the town of Postoloprty. According to what you said, it is just a division and should not be named in EBT. Just the postcode 440 01 should be accepted for Postoloprty (as well as 439 42). If you update it that way, please tell me so that I rename my note.

:!: Březno is also the name of several municipalities in the same region in the okresy of Chomutov, Most, Ústi nad Labem for the one I know. Some of them are called Velké or Malé (big or small) or have disctricts with Malé and Velké. These municipalities have nothing to do with the Bězno in Postoloprty.

I hope I am clear.
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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by lmviterbo » Tue May 15, 2018 12:57 am

I just created Postoloprty and assigned it to Louny.

I was about to create the "locations" (pairs "city" / postal code):
Postoloprty (440 01)
Postoloprty (439 42)

Before that, though, I checked the official postal code search tool from Česká pošta, and I was surprised to see the format "43942" instead of "439 42".

Should I use the "nnnnn" format (all digits together, without a space)? (I have also checked the EBT database, and this has been the most used format.)

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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by aloxe » Tue May 15, 2018 2:28 pm

Thanks for the info. For the postcode format, both work and postman will not refuse it but there is a tendency to write adresses with a space after the 3 first digits. Some forms have this space and it is visible on the howto write an address page from the local post: https://www.ceskaposta.cz/rady-a-navody ... at-zasilku

I don't know if this complies with ISO bu;-)t I guess on EBT you will see both.
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Re: Incorrect dots and inaccuracies among city profiles

Post by lmviterbo » Wed May 16, 2018 1:47 am

Done and geolocated. Sorry for the delay.

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