Suspicious notes and users

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:57 pm

SUp3rFM wrote:Looks very suspicious.

He has been already identified as 100% sure faker. He'll lose all his bills sooner or later. I also hope it would be sooner, because seeing such large fakers is depressing.

Post by **Nerzhul** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:56 pm

renny moniz has indeed been indentified as entering suspicious notes. I sent him a warning today, and actions will be taken within a week.

Meanwhile I'm glad to announce that Sani2000 has been taken care of. He lost 3457 of his 6023 notes, including his consecutive hit with Diva.

-M

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:30 pm

Nice work with Sani2000. I'm happy to see things progress with our new admin around.

joergb30 · Post by **joergb30** » Sun Jun 05, 2005 11:52 pm

Nerzhul wrote:renny moniz has indeed been indentified as entering suspicious notes. I sent him a warning today, and actions will be taken within a week.
-M

It's going on... maybe he don't understand English?

€5
€5
(...)
€5
€5

€10
€10
(...)
€10
€10

Elmo · Post by **Elmo** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 12:01 am

I don't think so. Al least Taiwind did it to screw the site:
http://www.eurotraq.com/load.php?traq=e ... 2A0%2A0000

Taiwind wrote:die sukkels van eurotracker.com hebben me nog steeds niet verwijderd

Translation: Those eurobilltracker.com losers still haven't deleted me

Could he still be deleted?

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:19 am

Elmo wrote:Translation: Those eurobilltracker.com losers still haven't deleted me

How childish attitude. He must have been a very stupid one, because one should know well that cheaters are taken care of sooner or later (I still hope this would be much sooner. You're being too nice/polish!). I wonder a bit, why Eurotraq admins haven't banned that guy also from their site, because showing such attitude against other sites isn't nice at all IMHO. I think all euro tracking sites should help each other, not try to comptete all the time. Besides, that competition has turned a long time ago for EBT.

SUp3rFM · Post by **SUp3rFM** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:34 pm

rennny moniz entered several €50 sequencial notes...

2005-06-06 14:59:24 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:59:12 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:58:56 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:58:45 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:58:33 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:58:19 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:58:07 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:57:46 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:57:34 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:57:21 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:57:08 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:56:56 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:56:45 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:56:32 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:56:19 50 EURMxxxx5132xxx Hxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)

And some more €5...

2005-06-06 14:33:35 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:33:22 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:33:12 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:33:01 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:32:50 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:32:38 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:32:28 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:32:18 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:32:07 10 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:56 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:45 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:34 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:24 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:13 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:31:02 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)
2005-06-06 14:30:50 5 EURMxxxx5567xxx Uxxxxx Anadia ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 3780-294)

Also, the user el_motedura entered several notes of sequencial €50 notes, too. Seems that everytime he adds new notes, they're all sequencial...

daniellez · Post by **daniellez** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:46 pm

Nerzhul wrote:renny moniz has indeed been indentified as entering suspicious notes. I sent him a warning today, and actions will be taken within a week.

Hey SUp3rFM, as you can see, rennnymoniz will be taken care of by
Nerzhul. el_motedura is a different case, but there's no doubt in my mind that he will lose many (or all?) of his notes soon, because he has already scored a hit into serials, as was noted by joergb30.

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=7779866

Post by **Nerzhul** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:53 pm

Next round: I deleted 3239 consecutive notes of nick-nicola clearly marked as 'INVENTATO' and sent him a friendly warning

el_motedura will be looked at next. This may take some time though, since his entry pattern is indeed weird but not obviously fake.

joergb30 wrote: It's going on... maybe he [renny moniz] don't understand English?

This may very well be.

However, the deletion of his supposedly fake notes will clearly transport the message we want to send. If he cares about his account he'll notice and contact the support. In the unprobable case that he's really innocent and has a very good explanation for his entry pattern it's an easy thing to restore his notes.

Klazu wrote:He must have been a very stupid one, because one should know well that cheaters are taken care of sooner or later (I still hope this would be much sooner. You're being too nice/polish!)

As you may have noticed, we'll speed up things a little bit from now on.

However, as avij already said ... we cannot simply check this thread, pick up usernames and delete their notes. Instead, we have to do our own investigations and carefully weigh the consequences of our actions before doing anything. This all takes a lot of time...

-M

SUp3rFM · Post by **SUp3rFM** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:08 pm

daniellez wrote:
Nerzhul wrote:renny moniz has indeed been indentified as entering suspicious notes. I sent him a warning today, and actions will be taken within a week.
Hey SUp3rFM, as you can see, rennnymoniz will be taken care of by
Nerzhul. el_motedura is a different case, but there's no doubt in my mind that he will lose many (or all?) of his notes soon, because he has already scored a hit into serials, as was noted by joergb30.

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=7779866

Yes, I noticed that. Thanks.

Guess what, I've one hit with el_motedura. I just don't know if my hit is with one of those serials... (Link)

Hope it's genuine one.

Keep up the good work!

FANTAS · Post by **FANTAS** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:41 pm

joergb30 wrote:It's going on... maybe he don't understand English?

You have all the site translated for a lot of languages, can't you also translate the emails? I know the newsletter is always translated and the answers to emails are sent in the same language because a co-worker reads and responds. Those warnings could also be translated and stored if there are so many cheaters.

bocky · Post by **bocky** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:46 pm

SUp3rFM wrote:Guess what, I've one hit with el_motedura.

Me too. The distance/time difference seems right, though. 5km in 46 days.

georgie1913 · Post by **georgie1913** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:20 pm

the hit between Gabifritz and Tomfritz ( see the names !) is probablely not interesting. They both come from Berlin, are EBT-er since the same day, 2004-12-21 and have both 3 hits. To many similities to be real.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:25 am

avij wrote:
ans wrote:user   ????
Yes, he's been a headache for me.. I've now removed all his notes, let's hope he learns but my hopes aren't particularly high.

2005-06-07 01:14:39 5 EUR Rxxxx2523xxx Uxxxxx Helsinki ( Flag for Finland Finland, 00930)
2005-06-07 01:14:39 5 EUR Rxxxx2523xxx Uxxxxx Helsinki ( Flag for Finland Finland, 00930)
2005-06-07 01:14:39 5 EUR Rxxxx2523xxx Uxxxxx Helsinki ( Flag for Finland Finland, 00930)
2005-06-07 01:14:39 5 EUR Rxxxx2523xxx Uxxxxx Helsinki ( Flag for Finland Finland, 00930)
2005-06-07 01:14:39 5 EUR Rxxxx2523xxx Uxxxxx Helsinki ( Flag for Finland Finland, 00930)

50 times

,so lets kick his ass

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:41 am

U/R fivers? Definately fake ones. Such notes doesn't excist here in Finland.

I'm happy to see that we have managed to get a very wise new admin. Keep up the good work! I'm really counting on you.

One request that I would like to make, is from 6 months from the past. Then there was three italian fakers: PincoPallino, gigio and ClaudioSimone (some of them has changed their name). They managed to enter thousands of notes which we all found very suspicious/fake. But no actions were made - not even today! Now they have stopped to fake (at least it seems so) but they still have those thousands of fake notes on their account. And they are holding some leasing positions in italian charts. Couldn't their fake notes (not all, just the fake ones) be taken care of finally? If I would be an fair italian user, I would feel very frustrated to see those three fakers on leading positions for months! Seems like nobody's caring about this issue, since 6 months without actions is just too slow.

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