W-EBTM 2014 (March 15+16) Lisbon: Information, Guide & Help

[mico]

hello. Please, are these websites good for looking for zip codes of Lisbon and Portugal

http://www.codigo-postal.pt/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ctt.pt/feapl_2/app/open/tools.jspx?lang=01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (selection Postal Code Search)

[efeesse]

hello. Please, are these websites good for looking for zip codes of Lisbon and Portugal

http://www.codigo-postal.pt/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ctt.pt/feapl_2/app/open/tools.jspx?lang=01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (selection Postal Code Search)

Hello mico, I tried both and they gave me the result that I expected. So I should say that both are valid.
Also this one is good: http://mapav.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (but is only in portuguese)

Note for the participants:
In Portugal, the zip codes are 4 digits + 3 (this last 3 represent the street, or more accurate place inside a "city").
i.e.: 1100-578 [1100 is Lisboa and 578 is the street (Rua dos Sapateiros)]
If you only know the 4 digits, it's OK and a valid zip code to register the note, as for dots speaking, don't make difference in Lisbon.

[lmviterbo]

We are writing on the program the postal codes of all the official places where the tour will pass. You will still need to know all the others where you acquire banknotes and you may use any of those sources to find the correct postal codes. The official one, though, is the CTT link you mentioned.

After the meeting, we'll be glad to help if you can't find there (at ctt.pt) any postal code for some specific location.

[mico]

hello. Please, are these websites good for looking for zip codes of Lisbon and Portugal

http://www.codigo-postal.pt/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ctt.pt/feapl_2/app/open/tools.jspx?lang=01" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (selection Postal Code Search)

Hello mico, I tried both and they gave me the result that I expected. So I should say that both are valid.
Also this one is good: http://mapav.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (but is only in portuguese)

thank you efeesse
for using the website http://mapav.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for Lisbon it is required to know the name of Freguesias=parishes where I obtained the banknote. According to me, for a tourist it is easier to know the name of the street/square (sometimes the number of the door is required) So, I believe I will use the three web sites to check the exact Código Postal... and probably I will enter my banknotes into EBT during the night

[Montgomery Burns]

http://www.ctt.pt/feapl_2/app/open/tools.jspx?lang=01 (selection Postal Code Search)

I took the liberty of putting together this quick tutorial for CTT's postal code tool, not because it's very difficult to understand, but rather because it's not terribly well translated.

So, after opening it, you may leave the "District / Islands" and "Region" fields blank. I don't think you'll be visiting any places with conflicting names (ie. more than one town in the country with the same name). Fill in the "Place" field with the Portuguese name of the town/city. Presumably, the only place in the Lisbon area that can be translated is Lisbon/Lisboa itself, Sintra or Cascais are the same in every language. You can also leave the door number field blank. Enter the address into the "Name of street" field.



If you can enter the full name of a street or square right away, fine, but you don't have to. For instance, entering "aguiar" will suffice if you are looking for Avenida António Augusto de Aguiar. Then click on the appropriate "Areas / Sections" link.



Search results are divided into odd (Ímpares) and even (Pares) door numbers. For some addresses you may get all possible results on a single page, while others may give a number of pages of results. If that's the case, keep clicking on "seguinte" to get the following page of results. The results pages also list companies and institutions that you may find at the given address. If applicable, you should use the postal codes given here for even greater accuracy. An example: a note obtained at number 132 of Lisbon's Avenida António Augusto de Aguiar could be entered with the postal code 1050-020, that would be acceptable. But the CTT has attributed an exclusive code - 1069-077 - to the building located there, the headquarters of Banco BIC (formerly Banco Português de Negócios), so it is preferable to use that one.

[mico]

If you can enter the full name of a street or square right away, fine, but you don't have to. For instance, entering "aguiar" will suffice if you are looking for Avenida António Augusto de Aguiar. Then click on the appropriate "Areas / Sections" link.

thank you

And for the Airport I believe 1700-111
and do you know where is/are Santanter Totta Multibanco/s delivering
are they at the arrivals or departures https://www.ana.pt/en-US/Aeroportos/lis ... cArea.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[lmviterbo]

And for the Airport I believe 1700-111

It's 1700-008.

and do you know where is/are Santanter Totta Multibanco/s delivering
are they at the arrivals or departures https://www.ana.pt/en-US/Aeroportos/lis ... cArea.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Departures. You may want to use this map of ATMs delivering and in Lisbon: http://goo.gl/wgkFBX. The markers are very carefully positioned and there's all sorts of information, including address and postal code for each ATM.

[portaonze]

Almost time to go to Lisboa
Unfortunately I wont be able to join you but I hope you have a great time in my home town.
It would also be nice if you found some of my notes in the process.

[magpie]

I'm working on addresses, menus, prices and schedules. A lot more work than I thought and a lot later than you expected. We'll post everything until Sunday.

There's some changes to the initial plan but mostly to the better (and longer). The meeting will start officially Friday lunch at a restaurant with walls covered in banknotes of all the world.

Not sure if I missed it. Are there any plans for the meeting now?

[lmviterbo]

I'm working on addresses, menus, prices and schedules. A lot more work than I thought and a lot later than you expected. We'll post everything until Sunday.

There's some changes to the initial plan but mostly to the better (and longer). The meeting will start officially Friday lunch at a restaurant with walls covered in banknotes of all the world.

Not sure if I missed it. Are there any plans for the meeting now?

You haven't missed it. We're working on that.. Yes, it's 5h00 here and two of us are working on the itinerary, technically not tomorrow yet for us procastrinators and slow people.
Anyway, I can assure everyone that you won't be a bit disappointed. Just nervous. Ok, because many of you are possibly getting really impacient,

Here's the abridged plans for Friday:

13:15 Restaurante Oh! Lacerda 38.7389, -9.15387
what: LUNCH
remarks: banknotes of the entire world on the walls
prices: choose from the menu (expect 20 € - 25 €)

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14:45 (7 min walk +) Metro (+ 3 min walk)
prices: 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (you can’t enter without valid transportation ticket, and you can’t buy it on board)

15:30 Money Museum (Hall) 38.7086, -9.13897
what: preview of what will be the museum
remarks: only the hall is visitable, the museum is not open yet
prices: free

16:10 Walk (3 min)
remarks: time to withdraw 5-euro banknotes at an ATM if you need them

16:25 Rua Augusta Arch 38.7085, -9.13683
what: panoramic view over Lisbon and lovely clockworks with working hour-striking mechanism connected to a big bell
prices: 2.50 €

17:15 Baixa (Downtown — stroll around free time)
suggestions:
Terreiro do Paço / Praça do Comércio
Elevador de Santa Justa

18:30 Tram (+ 4 min walk)
prices: 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (or 2.85 € on board)
remarks: only coins on board!

19:00 Ler Devagar (Bookshop) 38.7027, -9.17840
what: one of the most beautiful bookshops in the world
prices: free (if you don’t buy anything)
remarks: you may want to stroll around LX Factory, a creative neighborhood

20:00 Cantina Lx (Restaurant) 38.7032, -9.17885
what: DINNER
prices: choose from the menu (expect 18 € - 20 €)
remarks: there are many other options of all kinds nearby, if you wish to spend less

22:00 (3 min walk +) Bus + another Bus (+ 2 min walk)
prices: 2 x 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (or 2 x 2.85 € on board)

22:45 Pavilhão Chinês (Bar) 38.7158, -9.14680
what: bar with an amazing collection of memorabilia all over the walls
prices: choose from the menu (there’s no minimum charge, so it’s free if you don’t want anything)
remarks: closes at 02h00; if you’re willing to keep on partying, ask for advice

[MDeen]

Just a tip: put links to google maps or openstreetmaps for the locations. That way it will be 100% clear where the locations are.

Like Restaurante Oh! Lacerda (Google) or Restaurante Oh! Lacerda (Openstreetmap).

[lmviterbo]

Just a tip: put links to google maps or openstreetmaps for the locations. That way it will be 100% clear where the locations are.

Thanks for the tip. It has been thought of. In fact, a lot more than that (addresses, geocoordinatess, postal codes, how to get there, …).

Here's a sample of how the paper itinerary will look like:

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We're still undecided on which way will be the best to put this information online. We will put everything online (apart from the questions, of course; the one shown here serves as example). If we copy paste it here and add only the links, the format and readibility will be lost. If we put it on Google Drive or some other external drive, it might prove difficult for some to access. Any suggestions?

[Dawizz]

Sadly I have to said that I will not be going to the meeting.

[lmviterbo]

Sadly I have to said that I will not be going to the meeting.

Oh I hope that is unrelated to the program or the organization.

[lmviterbo]

Here's the abridged information for Saturday (main day):

09:00 Rossio Train Station (Meeting Point) 38.7145, -9.14081
what: main meeting point for everybody who wasn’t with us yesterday
remarks: if you didn’t have breakfast yet, you’ll have very little time for it

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09:20 (9 min walk +) Tram (+ 6 min walk)
remarks: if we don’t catch this tram, there won’t be enough seats on the next one
prices: 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (or 2.85 € on board)

10:00 São Jorge Castle ticket office: 38.7123, -9.13299
what: belvedere, castle walls and towers, islamic ruins
remarks: you’ll be flabbergasted if only by the view and even more by the camera obscura (see below)
prices: 7 € (pay the EBT guide)

11:00 São Jorge Castle — Camera obscura 38.7137, -9.13357
what: view in real time of Lisbon through a periscope (image projected on a large concave screen)
remarks: pre-arranged periscopic tour, guided in English (and Portuguese, if needed)
prices: included in the ticket for the castle

12:00 Alfama Walking minitour (1,600 m) — downloadable map here: http://goo.gl/t9F3yA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
what: through Santa Luzia and Portas do Sol belvederes, a maze of alleys and archways, churches (São Miguel and Santo Estêvão), and Manueline doorways (16th century)
remarks: most of this walk is downhill but not all of it; for those who find it too harsh, one of the guides can lead a subgroup through a downhill-only, much faster way (you’ll arrive earlier to the destination)

12:45 Adega Victor Horta (Restaurant) 38.7096, -9.12969
what: LUNCH (in Palácio Vila Flor, a palace classified as national monument)
remarks: this is the most official meal in the whole meeting; you won’t want to miss it
prices: preset 20 € (pay the EBT guide)

14:15 (4 min walk +) Tram (+ 1 min walk)
prices: 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (or 2.85 € on board)

15:10 Jerónimos Monastery 38.6976, -9.20548
what: large Manueline monastery (16th century) built over a 15th century church and encompassing several architectural styles and epochs; classified by UNESCO as a World Heritage Site
its cloisters are remarkable, as well as the details of all the stonework
remarks: remarks
prices: 5 €

16:30 Pastéis de Belém 38.6975, -9.20328
what: tea time; "pastel de Belém" is an egg tart pastry, known elsewhere, in similar recipes, as “pastel de nata”; it has been several times considered one of the tastier delicacies in the world
remarks: the house itself is worth a visit
if, however, you care more for money than for delectable sweetness, you might want to check the nearby Millennium Bank ATM for 5-euro notes
prices: 1.10 € each; it's not at all uncommon to eat two, some people eat more

17:20 National Coach Museum (Museu dos Coches) 38.6975, -9.19966
what: one of the largest collections of ceremonial and promenade vehicles from the 17th to the 19th centuries
remarks: last entry at 17h30, closes at 18h00
prices: 5 €

18:05 (1 min walk +) Bus (+ 9 min walk)
prices: 1.25 € taken from a prepaid card (or 2.85 € on board)

19:00 Fado in Chiado 38.7114, -9.14286
what: a 50-min live fado show with some of the best fadistas (fado singers) and musicians, accompanied by images of Lisbon (including some places we don’t have the opprtunity to visit)
remarks: Fado is a sort of national song, it’s a symbol of Portugal, with an emotional voice accompanied by the clasical guitar and the Portuguese guitar; UNESCO declared fado Cultural Heritage of Humanity
prices: 14 € (it might seem a little overpriced… until you listen to the music and watch the show!)

20:00 Cervejaria Trindade (Restaurant) 38.7125, -9.14255
what: DINNER
remarks: Portugal’s oldest brewery, in a building from 1836 making use of an ancient monastery’s walls and tiles
prices: preset 25 € (pay the EBT guide)

22:00 Bairro Alto Walking minitour — downloadable map here: http://goo.gl/2I1oTs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
what: we’ll take you to the young and vibrant nightlife
remarks: there’s plenty of bars where you can drop your 5-euro notes and drop in a coma if you drink all you can buy

23:00 Pensão Amor (Bar and more…) 38.7072, -9.14366
what: at an old guesthouse that once was a brothel, there’s now a bar, a bookshop specialized in erotic books and more
prices: choose from the menu (there’s no minimum charge, so it’s free if you don’t want anything)
remarks: closes at 03h00; if you’re still willing to keep on partying, ask for advice