Suspicious notes and users

guardian1967 · Post by **guardian1967** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:23 pm

Hail to the king 15500 bills in 7 days????
O my God how did he do that??

de*lerger · Post by **de*lerger** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:48 pm

hafla wrote:Is this guy Denni$ extremely lucky to have 15 hits with 244 notes, or is there something fishy?

Denni$ has most (all ?) of his hits with andre bakker, also from Dordrecht. They're probably fishing in the same pond.

hafla · Post by **hafla** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:29 pm

I wish I had more users living close to my pond.

klapotec · Post by **klapotec** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:57 pm

guardian1967 wrote:Hail to the king 15500 bills in 7 days????
O my God how did he do that??

Store two months (or more) worth of notes in the EBT-Tool and then enter more than 12000 of them in one day.

guardian1967 · Post by **guardian1967** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:34 pm

Thanks

Asiamaniac · Post by **Asiamaniac** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:54 pm

klapotec wrote:
guardian1967 wrote:Hail to the king 15500 bills in 7 days????
O my God how did he do that??

Store two months (or more) worth of notes in the EBT-Tool and then enter more than 12000 of them in one day.

Which is not the sense of that tool.

Gauss · Post by **Gauss** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:48 pm

Asiamaniac wrote:
klapotec wrote:
guardian1967 wrote:Hail to the king 15500 bills in 7 days? How did he do that?
Store two months (or more) worth of notes in the EBT-Tool and then enter more than 12000 of them in one day.
Which is not the sense of that tool.

And not exactly permitted, either.

FAQ, [url=http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/faq/?tab=1]Rules & guidelines,[/url] wrote:Holding back notes, artificial entry patterns
We know, it may be tempting to set some personal records by holding back notes for a while and then entering them on a single day, but this is actually not a very good idea. This type of behavior makes all kind of statistics less accurate, the most important being wrong timestamps of the entered notes which result in inaccurate travel data of hits. In the worst case you will even get 'reverse hits', where another user already tracked a note you spent in the past but decided to enter on EBT much later.

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:55 am

Unfortunately there seems to be again someone who ows his "nice hits" to the abuse of the ET-website:

Original note of fata:
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... ow=Z&col=5 (Nr. 1)
EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=2994525

Original note of Ralf_ebt:
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... =5&page=11 (Nr. 318)
EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=2653342

Original note of Angelino:
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... =5&page=14 (Nr. 396)
EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... ;id=109033

Original note of Denniszw:
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... l=5&page=5 (Nr. 137)
EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=5643612

Original note of rhyk (now anonymous at EBT):
ET: http://www.eurotracer.net/statistics/no ... ow=X&col=5 (Nr. 10)
EBT: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... id=7082427

and so on... please find a way to stop this!

Ralf · Post by **Ralf** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:07 am

Ask did sent ET allready some months a good mail if they want to delete all my notes bit they didn't it looks like

magpie · Post by **magpie** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:44 am

Ralf wrote:Ask did sent ET allready some months a good mail if they want to delete all my notes bit they didn't it looks like

ET is a German service. Not deleting your notes is IMHO against the law (Bundesdatenschutzgesetz).

It's a pity that ET spoils the party...

helloggs · Post by **helloggs** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:31 am

This was discussed some time ago:

thomas wrote:
Helge wrote:Vielleicht sollte ich meine Daten löschen lassen
Hier unterscheiden sich EBT und ET: bei EBT gibt es user, die "ihre" Scheine eintragen. Bei ET gibt es Scheine, die von einem seiner zeitweiligen Besitzer (aber nicht Eigentümer) freundlicherweise eingetragen werden. Die Angaben Name, mail-Adresse, Stadt, Kommentar usw. sind nützliche, aber optionale Attribute eines Scheines.

Translation:
Helge: Maybe I should have my notes [at ET] deleted.
Thomas: That is the difference between EBT and ET: At EBT user enter 'their' notes. At ET there are notes which are courtesy of their temporary holder (but not owner). Name, mail-adress, city, comment are useful, but optional.

After I read this it was pretty clear to me that I will never enter anything to a site that has such a policy, regardless of the faking problem. So good luck with your Bundesdatenschutzgesetz...

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:59 am

Mz-Money is a faker. Nothing but international hits for him. Not real.

MZ-Money · Post by **MZ-Money** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:08 pm

Klazu wrote:Mz-Money is a faker. Nothing but international hits for him. Not real.

How do you deduce??

I receive my notes almost exclusively from the Metro-financel-headquater in Kastel. This is the largest market for fresh commodity of the catering trade in the proximity of the European turntable airport Frankfurt with international public.

And you do not maintain something could be not real?

Who are you?

God?

All hits in the EBT with spanier_20, Schach, joergb30, androl, E-verzamelaar, HTTK, Helge, Angelino und magpie would have to be therefore fakes, since the notes are to be found also in the ET.

I think it´s time for an unreserved apology.

debemaks · Post by **debemaks** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:19 pm

Klazu wrote:Mz-Money is a faker. Nothing but international hits for him. Not real.

I don't know if he's a faker or not, but Masters my look if his hits came out from a serial tracking or not!

If so, Mz-Money is a faker, otherwise he's very lucky!

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:10 pm

MZ-Money wrote:All hits in the EBT with spanier_20, Schach, joergb30, androl, E-verzamelaar, HTTK, Helge, Angelino und magpie would have to be therefore fakes, since the notes are to be found also in the ET.

So you seem to know the ET-community quiet well

Sorry, I find it to hard to believe that somebody should have so many hits with ET-notes from all over the world - and only active

(which means that the note was entered by the ET-user first).

debemaks wrote:I don't know if he's a faker or not, but Masters my look if his hits came out from a serial tracking or not!

Yes but please keep in mind that these serials where maybe not entered together to prevent the obvious "hit into consecutive serials".