Suspicious notes and users

€€F · Post by **€€F** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:03 pm

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/? ... ser=107410

2007-07-03 17:55:36 Salsomaggiore Terme - Nijmegen Barbaro - Hubby 837 19
2007-06-30 21:02:42 Salsomaggiore Terme - Nijmegen Barbaro - Hubby 837 16
2007-06-20 21:34:49 Salsomaggiore Terme - Nijmegen Barbaro - Hubby 837 6

first two hits are older as 24 hours..
today the third..
not interesting I guess..

androl · Post by **androl** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:09 pm

erasmuston wrote:please take a look at this hitlist http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/? ... user=95913

unfortunately, two hits don't prove anything. They could just be "lucky bastards"

erasmuston · Post by **erasmuston** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:34 am

androl wrote:
erasmuston wrote:please take a look at this hitlist http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/? ... user=95913
unfortunately, two hits don't prove anything. They could just be "lucky bastards"

let's just keep an eye on these suspicious users in order to see to which group they belong: the lucky ones or the fakin' bastards

vermeer · Post by **vermeer** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:07 am

You may moderate this hit with the link: http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=32331353. Not the other 1.

teckenschnempo · Post by **teckenschnempo** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:28 pm

hit into a consecutive series of notes from user ocin

2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:30 Vxxxx5631xxx (*) Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:29 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:29 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:29 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)
2007-07-04 15:18:29 Vxxxx5631xxx Mxxxxx Wevelgem ( Belgien, 8560)

ravestorm · Post by **ravestorm** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:46 pm

Please, look over this hit list:

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/profile/? ... ser=105601

This 2 users live in the same city but we ask ourselves: could they be friends?
(or maybe one doesn't know each other but they only frequent same places)

I leave this hard decision in the moderators hands....

Crazy Bob · Post by **Crazy Bob** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:10 pm

given the comments on makochan200's profile page, this hit (and the others between the same users) would seem clear cases for moderation...

ErGo · Post by **ErGo** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:12 pm

Please, can somebody check

-user gschpasst. He joined 2 weeks before and in this time he entered 100 notes. Today he grow his input rate to 700 notes per day, which is very suspicous for such an new user but it's possibly. But for myself it's suspicous because there was only notes in consecutive series when I watch today. But it's not a proof - i know.

But now when i return to my computer i saw, that there occured a hit - but unfortunately i cannot proof (but i am relativly sure) that it was a hit into consecutive serials, because i had not longer access to the

entered notelist. Anybody here who can check this?

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 7:36 pm

This is not a

, but a

hit. This case was discussed a lot in the past, but the bills were never changed back to Germany where Raurakgan got them in the first place.

k'mon seven5 · Post by **k'mon seven5** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:22 pm

ErGo wrote:But now when i return to my computer i saw, that there occured a hit - but unfortunately i cannot proof (but i am relativly sure) that it was a hit into consecutive serials, because i had not longer access to the entered notelist. Anybody here who can check this?

Same for me, because he/she used the single entry form, the notes are hard to find but I found the note before and after the hit - seem to be consecutive serials.

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=32638901
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=32638918 Hit
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=32639001

aplfi · Post by **aplfi** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 9:40 pm

Klazu wrote:This is not a , but a hit. This case was discussed a lot in the past, but the bills were never changed back to Germany where Raurakgan got them in the first place.

Well thinking of same way could you change this note to Finland where you got it in first place.

At least Raurakgan probably had his/her note in Thailand but you never had your note in France.

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:40 pm

@aplfi: Don't know about you, but I see huge difference when

- taking bundle(s) of notes from your home country
- taking them to a far away exotic (non-Euro) country
- entering them to system as beeing from there (they were there, but their origin is not there)
- perhaps spending few of them there, but actually
- bringing rest back with you to your home country.

The last two steps are speculative in the case we have, but I don't see any reasons why steps like that couldn't as well happen in some case.

For compare my note here was

- received in that country by the person mentioned in the comment (person could be counted to Klazu and friends as I regulary enter his notes)
- brought to Finland, as mentioned in the comment, by the same person
- entered to have the origin in France - entered by me.

In 1) my case I know for sure the few notes are from there and I have seen them myself. I think is better than case 2) where one receives bundles of notes in some holiday destination (Euro country) and takes them back to his home country just for EBT (done by many ebters, including me in my travels between

and

, and vice versa). Actually at least I see this even better than 3) when I entered some 15 larger notes, which my trusted friend used for buying himself a car in Finland. I didn't see those notes and they even didn't pass in my hands, as the note from France did. The latter case is actually similar to when your wife withdraws notes from ATM and let's you enter them. But you didn't withdraw them and they are not yours - do you still dare to enter them? (hell yes!)

I understand people can have many opinions on this, but the reason why I want to have this

note conversation in debate is that (as I have said much earlier) if we now see this kind of behavior correct, there's no reason why we could judge when the next user gets the idea of taking (for example) 200 notes from an Euro country to (for example) Mongolia, entering them there and taking at least most of them back to home country.

But please, share your opinion.

aplfi wrote:...but you never had your note in France.

The note was for 101% sure received in the place stated in comment by the person names (which could be concidered as part of my "team"). I don't see any reason why this 53-year-old traveling-a-lot business man, which is also my father-in-law, would give me false information on this. The note was also brought to me, so I have seen it myself. I don't know how much more convincing this information could be.

androl · Post by **androl** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:54 pm

Klazu wrote:This is not a , but a hit.

he wrote in the comment "taken to Thailand, changed in Bangkok", which means he left it in Bangkok. Now the note has returned to Austria. It is a true

hit, even better than if he got it and entered it in Bangkok and brought it to Austria himself. Don't take the rules more serious than necessary if it helps to find interesting hits.

riba-fish · Post by **riba-fish** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:37 am

Please moderate the following friendly hit:

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/notes/?id=32594758

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:18 am

Now I am being curious, what is behind the several hits from Slovenia that Euroblaster (a respected member) is having lately?