Rare Euro banknote
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P0000-P0064 ==> G001
P0065-P0069 ==> G006
// unknown zone
P0100-P0307 ==> P001
// unknown zone
P0315-P0709 ==> G006
P0710-P0741 ==> G007
P0747-P0747 ==> G008
P0754-P0781 ==> G009
P0785-P0786 ==> G006
P0792-P0792 ==> G009
P0801-P1015 ==> G010 Trichet
P1016-P1016 ==> G011 Trichet
P1022-P1082 ==> G010 Trichet
P0065-P0069 ==> G006
// unknown zone
P0100-P0307 ==> P001
// unknown zone
P0315-P0709 ==> G006
P0710-P0741 ==> G007
P0747-P0747 ==> G008
P0754-P0781 ==> G009
P0785-P0786 ==> G006
P0792-P0792 ==> G009
P0801-P1015 ==> G010 Trichet
P1016-P1016 ==> G011 Trichet
P1022-P1082 ==> G010 Trichet
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alex77r wrote:Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Irelandj3paris wrote:Some![]()
L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
months ago...
I got a
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There is also a few of them in Paris...but it is more possible that your note is from Ireland I think, or it is a fast note 
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I had my 2ndFons wrote:alex77r wrote:Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Irelandj3paris wrote:Some![]()
L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
months ago...
I got aL015 note today, so it's actually a note 'from' Ireland?
alex77r wrote:There is also a few of them in Paris...but it is more possible that your note is from Ireland I think, or it is a fast note
I've now gotten over 50 brand new (or very close to new)bhoeyb wrote:I had my 2ndFons wrote:alex77r wrote:Yes, I confirm, but it is odd because there was a big pooling of those notes in Irelandj3paris wrote:Some![]()
L015 finally surfaced in Paris over the past few months - I've found 21 of them.Maybe they aren't so rare after all, but were just hiding in reserve? I guess time will tell.
months ago...
I got aL015 note today, so it's actually a note 'from' Ireland?
L015 today.
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BTW, I withdrawed some of them (new) from an ATM of the "Banque de France" ...in the center of Paris in May 2006.
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Apart from Irish 500 Euro notes, one of the rarest notes, I believe, are the irish 10 Euro notes numbering from
T203456***** up to including T203649*****
even if they exist, they must be the most rarest note of them all.
Any other proposals ?
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By the way: Have I written down too many figures ?? I hope not, because I do not want to upset the system.
T203456***** up to including T203649*****
even if they exist, they must be the most rarest note of them all.
Any other proposals ?
ICU
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By the way: Have I written down too many figures ?? I hope not, because I do not want to upset the system.
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I wouldn't say they are rare, it's a too small intervall to say so. But what is special about them is the numbering system, because I don't know how to get the printer code from them. I have made a hypothesis about them that matches for one of the two notes I know of, but for the second note it is off by one (it's a T2036165 and I don't know why it is K001H1 and not K001I1), so the hypothesis is possibly wrong.
(So if one of you has such notes in his CSV, you could help me by sending me the first 9 digits of the serial and the printer code)
(and ye olde, you mean Irish, not Dutsch, right?)
(So if one of you has such notes in his CSV, you could help me by sending me the first 9 digits of the serial and the printer code)
(and ye olde, you mean Irish, not Dutsch, right?)
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@ androl
As this seems to be a forum, where hits are the only interesting items to the participants, maybe nobody really understands, what you and I are talking about.
For this reason, I thought to explain the numbering system of the irish 10 Euro notes a bit.
One item on a ‘collectors agenda’ is the numbering system of all Euro banknotes. From what we (I mean some collector friends and I) have seen in the Irish system, is the position of a note in the sheet is shown in the first few digits of the controlnumber.
Take the 10 Euro note:
The first figure ‘2’ indicates, this is a 10 Euro note. (1 stands for 5 €, 3 stands for 20 €, 4 = 50 €, 5 = 100 € and 0 = 500 €).
The next figures show the position on the sheet.
The first 10 Euro notes printed (K001) started with the numbering at position A6 and this position comprised of 5 figures, i.e. T*00000*****. Furthermore A6 was given to 4 numbers in a row, i.e. T*00000***** up to including T*00003*****. The next position B6 was given the numbers T*00004***** up to including T*00007***** and so on until one arrived at position I1, the last on the sheet – and I1 had the numbers T*00212***** up to including T*00215*****.
After theoretically having printed 40,000 sheets (4 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*00216*****, but this time A6 was given 50 consecutive numbers up to including T* 00265*****, which meant, all positions had 50 consecutive numbers and I1, the last note on the sheet had T* 02866***** up to including T*02915*****.
After theoretically having printed 500,000 sheets (50 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*02916*****, only this time each position was given 10 consecutive numbers (A6 = T*02916***** - T*02925*****; I1 = T*03446***** - T*03455****).
After theoretically having printed 100,000 sheets (10 x 10,000) one could think, the Central Bank of Ireland would start afresh at position A6 with the number T*03456***** - but this not the case, and this is the mystery.
We have found a hole in the numbering system, which we cannot understand. Between T*03455***** and T*03650***** we could not find a system at all. With the introduction of the number T*03650***** at A6 the system up to today is immaculate, the position is now shown with 4 digits only, each position is given 5 numbers and each printing charge has a theoretical print-capacity of 500,000 sheets.
But what happened with the numbers T*03456***** up to T*03649***** ? Up to today we have just seen two banknotes with these numbers, one is T203527***** F4 (found in Austria in 2004) and the other T203616***** H1 (found in Germany in 2006), both of which do not fit into any numbering scheme we can think of. Mathematics do not give us an answer, i.e. each sheet consists of 54 banknotes - but the difference between 3649 and 3456 is 193, and whichever way I calculate, this number cannot be divided by 54 or any other number, even if the sheet size has been changed, 193 is prime !!
Has the Central Bank of Ireland used this area of numbers for the printing of replacement notes ?? or does a system exist, which we have not deciphered ??
For this reason, I (and certainly, you androl as well) would really like to know of any findings in that region. I promise, no hits will be shown, in case anyone on this forum will dare tell me a controlnumer of an irish 10 Euro note with numbers ranging from T*03456***** up to T*03649***** inclusive.
Any comments from the hit-seekers ???
ICU
ye olde
As this seems to be a forum, where hits are the only interesting items to the participants, maybe nobody really understands, what you and I are talking about.
For this reason, I thought to explain the numbering system of the irish 10 Euro notes a bit.
One item on a ‘collectors agenda’ is the numbering system of all Euro banknotes. From what we (I mean some collector friends and I) have seen in the Irish system, is the position of a note in the sheet is shown in the first few digits of the controlnumber.
Take the 10 Euro note:
The first figure ‘2’ indicates, this is a 10 Euro note. (1 stands for 5 €, 3 stands for 20 €, 4 = 50 €, 5 = 100 € and 0 = 500 €).
The next figures show the position on the sheet.
The first 10 Euro notes printed (K001) started with the numbering at position A6 and this position comprised of 5 figures, i.e. T*00000*****. Furthermore A6 was given to 4 numbers in a row, i.e. T*00000***** up to including T*00003*****. The next position B6 was given the numbers T*00004***** up to including T*00007***** and so on until one arrived at position I1, the last on the sheet – and I1 had the numbers T*00212***** up to including T*00215*****.
After theoretically having printed 40,000 sheets (4 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*00216*****, but this time A6 was given 50 consecutive numbers up to including T* 00265*****, which meant, all positions had 50 consecutive numbers and I1, the last note on the sheet had T* 02866***** up to including T*02915*****.
After theoretically having printed 500,000 sheets (50 x 10,000) one started afresh at position A6 with the number T*02916*****, only this time each position was given 10 consecutive numbers (A6 = T*02916***** - T*02925*****; I1 = T*03446***** - T*03455****).
After theoretically having printed 100,000 sheets (10 x 10,000) one could think, the Central Bank of Ireland would start afresh at position A6 with the number T*03456***** - but this not the case, and this is the mystery.
We have found a hole in the numbering system, which we cannot understand. Between T*03455***** and T*03650***** we could not find a system at all. With the introduction of the number T*03650***** at A6 the system up to today is immaculate, the position is now shown with 4 digits only, each position is given 5 numbers and each printing charge has a theoretical print-capacity of 500,000 sheets.
But what happened with the numbers T*03456***** up to T*03649***** ? Up to today we have just seen two banknotes with these numbers, one is T203527***** F4 (found in Austria in 2004) and the other T203616***** H1 (found in Germany in 2006), both of which do not fit into any numbering scheme we can think of. Mathematics do not give us an answer, i.e. each sheet consists of 54 banknotes - but the difference between 3649 and 3456 is 193, and whichever way I calculate, this number cannot be divided by 54 or any other number, even if the sheet size has been changed, 193 is prime !!
Has the Central Bank of Ireland used this area of numbers for the printing of replacement notes ?? or does a system exist, which we have not deciphered ??
For this reason, I (and certainly, you androl as well) would really like to know of any findings in that region. I promise, no hits will be shown, in case anyone on this forum will dare tell me a controlnumer of an irish 10 Euro note with numbers ranging from T*03456***** up to T*03649***** inclusive.
Any comments from the hit-seekers ???
ICU
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