Fake locations
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Re: Fake locations
do the users S.ALZ, isl8, JuergenL, Forsi, ChrissanAG and Euroverteiler have any common way of entering notes? They have all entered notes with incorrect character encoding with \u####, like
Matalasca\u00f1as (Matalascañas)
M\u00fcnchen (München)
L\u00fcbeck (Lübeck)
Sein\u00e4joki (Seinäjoki)
\u00c9vian-les-Bains (Évian-les-Bains)
Turni\u0161\u010de (Turnišče)
Matalasca\u00f1as (Matalascañas)
M\u00fcnchen (München)
L\u00fcbeck (Lübeck)
Sein\u00e4joki (Seinäjoki)
\u00c9vian-les-Bains (Évian-les-Bains)
Turni\u0161\u010de (Turnišče)
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Re: Fake locations
maybe also a bug in there software ?
(b.t.w.: is there a way to correct the coutry for the users who didn't notice there mistake?: after correction of the Android software, there are no new coutry mistakes but there remain many older bills in the wrong country)
(b.t.w.: is there a way to correct the coutry for the users who didn't notice there mistake?: after correction of the Android software, there are no new coutry mistakes but there remain many older bills in the wrong country)
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Re: Fake locations
I don't know for certain if that's the case here, but the web browsers in some phones get confused about the charset. The page specifies UTF-8 to be used, but they still use some other charset to send the data.androl wrote:do the users S.ALZ, isl8, JuergenL, Forsi, ChrissanAG and Euroverteiler have any common way of entering notes? They have all entered notes with incorrect character encoding with \u####
I'm planning to review the entries of the affected users at the end of the year or so and make the necessary changes. I'm still hoping that the majority of people would fix the errors in their note entries themselves, saving me a bit of manual work.an-148 wrote:(b.t.w.: is there a way to correct the coutry for the users who didn't notice there mistake?: after correction of the Android software, there are no new coutry mistakes but there remain many older bills in the wrong country)
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Re: Fake locations
This hit is polluting the Haïti statistics.
Recently the first real notes were tracked in this country.
Recently the first real notes were tracked in this country.
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Look at my 5 years statistics
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Re: Fake locations
A new location has appeared in Portugal showing the same problem: Cerv\u00e3es. I still haven't merged it with Cervães (https://pt.eurobilltracker.com/profile/?city=138869" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) because I don't know if you plan to do something with these errors and it's easier for that purpose that the wrong locations are parent locations.avij wrote:I don't know for certain if that's the case here, but the web browsers in some phones get confused about the charset. The page specifies UTF-8 to be used, but they still use some other charset to send the data.androl wrote:do the users S.ALZ, isl8, JuergenL, Forsi, ChrissanAG and Euroverteiler have any common way of entering notes? They have all entered notes with incorrect character encoding with \u####
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Re: Fake locations
I had a look at the log and there is a chance that it's the same Massilia Dev's Android app that's mangling the non-ascii characters. However, there's still some uncertainty because that app uses a somewhat generic user agent string, which could theoretically be used by other apps as well. The user agent string doesn't match the user agent string of the other Android app (hi Nivram!) nor iEBT (for iPhones), so they're off the hook.lmviterbo wrote:A new location has appeared in Portugal showing the same problem: Cerv\u00e3es. I still haven't merged it with Cervães (https://pt.eurobilltracker.com/profile/?city=138869" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) because I don't know if you plan to do something with these errors and it's easier for that purpose that the wrong locations are parent locations.
I tried to reproduce the problem with my own Android phone and Massilia Dev's Android app, but everything worked fine. I guess I'll send the user an email and request more information.
You can merge the cities if you want to. It does no harm, although the cities with incorrect encoding will eventually be fixed once the root cause of the problem has been identified and fixed, so you may end up doing some extra work.
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Thanks for all the information. I didn't know Nivram's Android app and will try it.avij wrote:You can merge the cities if you want to. It does no harm, although the cities with incorrect encoding will eventually be fixed once the root cause of the problem has been identified and fixed, so you may end up doing some extra work.
I merged the locations. I had searched for "%\u0%" locations and there's none apart from Cervães so even if the error isn't corrected soon it shouldn't be too much work to merge the future miscoded locations, if any.
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Re: Fake locations
https://de.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=120434201
tram-love keeps riding on the wrong track...
1) Capellen 8309 is in Luxembourg
2) still the same comment...
tram-love keeps riding on the wrong track...
1) Capellen 8309 is in Luxembourg
2) still the same comment...
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The mixers of bundles, which are most of them belgians, don't have any clue, what's the EBT spirit
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Re: Fake locations
I'm quite new with my Android phone, and standardly my hometown is displayed as N\u00fcrnberg - thats extremely annoying.avij wrote:I had a look at the log and there is a chance that it's the same Massilia Dev's Android app that's mangling the non-ascii characters. However, there's still some uncertainty because that app uses a somewhat generic user agent string, which could theoretically be used by other apps as well. The user agent string doesn't match the user agent string of the other Android app (hi Nivram!) nor iEBT (for iPhones), so they're off the hook.
I tried to reproduce the problem with my own Android phone and Massilia Dev's Android app, but everything worked fine. I guess I'll send the user an email and request more information.
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Re: Fake locations
Did you perhaps use the automatic location detection function? I guess it works if you enter the location manually, but breaks if you ask the phone to determine the location. Just a theory. I don't have any umlaut places nearby where I could test this.roberdy wrote:I'm quite new with my Android phone, and standardly my hometown is displayed as N\u00fcrnberg - thats extremely annoying.
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Re: Fake locations
It also happened to me when I tried to insert notes with my tablet in Buġibba because of the ''ġ''avij wrote:Did you perhaps use the automatic location detection function? I guess it works if you enter the location manually, but breaks if you ask the phone to determine the location. Just a theory. I don't have any umlaut places nearby where I could test this.roberdy wrote:I'm quite new with my Android phone, and standardly my hometown is displayed as N\u00fcrnberg - thats extremely annoying.
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I suppose you could contact the application developer directly and give him the appropriate details of the problem to get the bux fixed.
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Re: Fake locations
Dominic38 wrote:It's since 2009 that tram-love doesn't insert notes from the right place.
See here
Four years and he continues to do what he wants. Deliberately violating the rules of EBT.
He wrote it himself in his profile on EBT. I don't understand. It's easy to modify the place in Munchen!
Almost all of his hit are wrong.
First hit
Second
4^
5^
6^
7^
8^
12^![]()
28^
29^
32^
41^
45^
57^
60^
15 hit on 62 with wrong location.
But who knows how many hundreds of bills tracked in the wrong way
I don't understand. It's been 4 years. Indeed. His first hit, the first hit and false, dates back to 2005. But perhaps it would suffice to say that it is a faker location since it is on EBT.
I don't understand. Do something. For the sake of EBT.
I totally agree with Dominic! It's a shame that nothing has been done!LITO wrote:I don't agree , tram love wants to trace brand new notes from where he spent them instead of where they were printed , why not ? It should not matter since those notes actually were there and it does not do any arm to EBT.
And there's no point even in discussing this: simply, when you enter new notes, in the form is written: "Where did you get the note?", not where did you spend or where did you bring! You got it in Munich, you insert it in Munich!
So I'd like to have an answer from who doesn't change the location/delete the notes? why nothing has been done? will someone do something about this?
but please I'd like my question to be answered!
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Re: Fake locations
LArdennais wrote:????????????????????????????????????
http://fr.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=132275229
eddydevries wrote:It's a hit between notgroschen and GBS (this was to get the names into this post).
But I wonder, why do you think it's suspicious?
(according to the comments, this note from notgroschen was found by "Schmidt" on his/her holidays at Fuerteventura and was spent home at the Sparkasse)
LArdennais wrote:What about GBS entry ? Where has HE really found this note ? InFuerteventura or in his
city ?
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