Suspicious notes and users

[nossi]

If all EBTlers act as presidente wants us to do, there will be about 500 hits for all of us in a month! F.e. we have less then 10 hits in a year were no bank is involved. How can you make with this few data serious statistics? And I think nobody would be interested in EBT anymore.

(Sorry for my bad english)

[avij]

There is no end in sight for this discussion. Please stop flogging this deceased equine of yours, and keep this topic to suspicious notes and users. Thank you.

[beaweb]

Avij,
bitte mache zu diesem Thema einen neuen Thread auf: Legal or Legitim.
1. an-148 ist kein suspicious user und seine Schein sind nicht suspicious.
2. Es gibt einen Unterschied zwischen normalen Treffern und forcierten Treffern.

Vor mir liegen in diesem Augenblick 200 getrackte und 2.800 ungetrackte Fünf-Euroscheine - meine Wochenration. Wenn ich die nun alle heute noch tracke, und sie morgen in Liebenwalde bei der Commerzbank einzahle, habe ich in den nächsten 30 Tagen mindestens 30 Treffer mit Abercrombie plus 270 moderierte. Sind das normale Treffer oder habe ich sie forciert?
Ich beziehe meine Scheine orginalverpackt von der EZB-Filiale in Berlin und bringe sie getrackt so zurück, dass sie wieder - in der Regel - zur EZB oder zu der Firma der Cash-Group gelangen, die die Geldautomaten auffüllt. Somit ist sichergestellt, dass das Wiederauffinden der einzelnen Scheine zufällig ist.
Ich habe sie in Berlin erhalten und ich gebe sie in Berlin zurück. Ich habe die Wanderung der Scheine nur unterbrochen!

Wenn ich im Ausland - in verschiedenen kleinen Ländern - viele Euroscheine tracke und sie aufhebe, um sie dann später zusammen und auf einmal in Helmbrechts bei den Banken einzuzahlen, weiß ich mit totbringender Gewissheit, dass ich viele Treffer haben werde. Dieses Vorgehen ist regelkonform, also legal im EBT-Regelwerk!

Ist es aber auch legitim in dem Sinne, dass EBT die normale Wanderung der Scheine verfolgen will?

Ich plädiere dafür, dass wir "Intensivtracker" darauf mehr achten sollten, damit die vielen Tracker, die nur ihre täglich erhaltenen Scheine tracken, ohne die EBT unmöglich wäre,
durch solche Monsterhitmengen nicht verschreckt oder gar entmutigt werden.

Diskutieren wir das in einem neuen Thread!

P.s.: Das oben gesagte gilt auch für Treffer in Paraguay.

[presidente]

please in english!!!!

[portaonze]

English!

[GWR7007]

English!

please in english!!!!

Although I am not beaweb, I have tried to tell those of you, who don't speak English, what beaweb wrote. If beaweb writes her statement in English, this post can be deleted. Of course, I cannot say more, than she said in her posting.



beaweb wants avij to open a new thread with the title: legal or legitimate

Then, she says, that:
1.) an-148 is no supicous user nor are his notes suspicous
2.) that there is a difference between normal and "forced" hits

She then gives the example of her weekly amount of bank notes, which would deliver at least 30 hits with Abercrombie and 270 moderated ones, if she would pay them in at the Commerzbank in Liebenwalde. She asks the uestion, whether these hits were normal, or forced.

Then, she says how she gets her notes. She receives her in the original packaging from the ECB branch in Berlin, enters them to EBT and brings them back, so that they come back to the Central Bank, or to the "Cash Group" company, which refills ATMs.

After that, she evaluates, whether it is in compliance with the rules, if someone recieves notes in small foreign countries and spends all of them in Helmbrechts, knowing, that they will become hits. In her opinion, this is according to the rules of EBT.

But she asks whether this is legitimate, as EBT wants to show the natural way of bank notes throughout the Eurozone.

She pleads, that the "intensive trackers" (sorry, I didn't find a better way to translate or paraphrase it ) should take more care, as such actions could frighten or dishearten the small trackers, who only enter some notes per day.

Her proposal is, that we should discuss this in a new topic.

In the P.S. she emphasises, that the things she said above are also about the hits with Paraguay.

[mico]

beaweb wants avij to open a new thread with the title: legal or legitimate
[...]
But she asks whether this is legitimate, as EBT wants to show the natural way of bank notes throughout the Eurozone.

thanks to GWR7007 for his translation and many many many thanks to beaweb for the question

so do I ask whether this is legitimate, as EBT wants to show the natural way of bank notes throughout the Eurozone

[Lasterpaule]

an-148 --->> --->> Helmbrechts ... Lasterpaule --->>

[lmviterbo]

Yesterday I've had four hits that look like extrapolated serial numbers.

The first two were these:

https://eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=145741159" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=145741160" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

On the comments, I forgot to mention those two Europa new were withdrawn from the ATM yesterday before 9am.

From the same ATM came a bunch of that didn't give a hit.

Because I found this suspicious, I went there myself at night and withdrew some more banknotes. Again, the gave hits. They were from the same batch but serial numbers had already skipped 68 numbers (presumably because almost as many notes had been withdrawn during the course of the day). Here are the hits:

https://eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=145745926" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
https://eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=145745927" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'd hate to be suspicious of a honest tracker but this seems really very implausible and I wouldn't like those hits to show up if they're faked.

I still have the notes with me, in case the Cleaning Team needs photos.

[LITO]

so do I ask whether this is legitimate, as EBT wants to show the natural way of bank notes throughout the Eurozone

Although EBT would like to show the natural path of banknotes I do not believe it actually can do so in a reliable way .
Most EBTers do not act with banknotes as normal customers would , EBTers tend to carry much more cash than they need especially when traveling , they also try to collect as much notes as they can by paying with a or when only a or would be needed in order to get more notes in return , they swop notes with retailers or cashiers to let their own notes go away from a place that would not be otherwise , some will drive to as many places as they can to obtain and drop notes and get dots on their maps.
By writing this I am not criticizing anyone I am only trying to emphasize that Eurobilltracker is a game , that EBTers are players and that no one should draw any serious conclusion out of players behavior and that it would be a mistake to make statistics from a game .

[Ashido44]

https://de.eurobilltracker.com/notes/?id=145960039

51km/7'33" = 476,8 km/h.

Users: Francisco29012014 & skarlatta06

[ErGo]

Someone was wasting his time...

Neila Dusch-Alander (192603): 8133 notes deleted
FlorianX (192799): 6958 notes
Neil Jecqawaude (192687): 7521 notes
achimcha (192798): 7463 notes
Super Sayan (192813): 5974 notes
satai jens (192865): 4932 notes

[ErGo]

Atika (192889): 30 notes deleted

[Lasterpaule]

Someone was wasting his time...

Neila Dusch-Alander (192603): 8133 notes deleted
FlorianX (192799): 6958 notes
Neil Jecqawaude (192687): 7521 notes
achimcha (192798): 7463 notes
Super Sayan (192813): 5974 notes
satai jens (192865): 4932 notes

What a beautiful day

[kayhh]

Thanks ERGO, til the next time. Think he will not stop, but you also not