EBT beta feedback (part 2)

Post by **Nerzhul** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:35 pm

We're running a public beta test again and are looking for feedback from our users. See this announcement for further details.

Once again, the same rules apply as last time, especially the temporary, non-linked database.

I hope you enjoy the new site. The more feedback we get, the faster we can apply this cool new feature to the main site.

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:24 pm

What did you mean by "
Speaking of tricks, stuff like this is possible now, too." ?

I see the map, the nice colour of the seas, the splitsing of Montenegro ; but I do not get it ?

avij · Post by **avij** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:26 pm

Well, quite simply, the city name for that note is Villingen-Schwenningen instead of Villingen-schwenningen.

€€F · Post by **€€F** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:31 pm

Thnx for informing us first@all!

I tried simply entering two notes for Brussel/Bruxelles , but have no clue what the database is doing with the fact that I entered them on two city names..

2006-07-12 21:26:27 Pxxxx0046xxx Gxxxxx Bruxelles ( België, 1130)
2006-07-12 21:25:41 Nxxxx2224xxx Fxxxxx Brussel ( België, 1130)
2006-07-12 21:22:16 Sxxxx3581xxx Jxxxxx Aelmelo ( Nederland, 7608 KH)

Aelmelo is wrong also of course , should be Almelo..

I'm missing a bit the clue what changes can be seen in effect.. I guess..

"and Serbia & Montenegro split"
In country ranking it is still 1 country..
It's split in the map you mean??

Fons · Post by **Fons** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:31 pm

Cool that Brussels/Bruxelles etc. was all added to one name.
Did that also happen with the "shortwritten" names like Hki for Helsinki, Jkl for Jyväskylä.

Well, at least I still see Vienna and Wien still as 2 different cities in the Austrian rankings. Just like Athina and Athens in Greece.

aplfi · Post by **aplfi** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:36 pm

1. Does it come possible to find notes from Serbia&Montenegro other way than entering the country manually in page address.

2. I am missing this dot again

Post by **Nerzhul** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:58 pm

Other than the few variations of Brussels no spellings have been manually combined. This will happen once the changes go live. For example, Wien/Vienna will then appear as one entry (in this case even with an own Babel constant), and Hki will be subsumed by Helsinki.

In the listings (private list of notes, livestream of new notes) those changes won't be visible. If you enter your notes from Bruxelles and view the page in dutch you won't see the individual note being from Brussel. The new data is for public city stats only, your private data isn't touched at the moment.

The old entries from Serbia & Montenegro remain in the system unconverted for the time being. They don't disturb the scripts and database and I'm still uncertain whether to convert them or not.

Donald · Post by **Donald** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:20 pm

Next thing could be that you do the same trick with postal codes.

"Enter the postal/zip code corresponding to where you got the note. No spaces, country or city name. If the note was found in Ireland, use the county code."

Especially Dutch codes are often typed like "7608 KH" although the instruction says you should type "7608KH". Some users type "NL-7608 KH" or similar. I am looking forward for the standardization of zip codes.

Nonetheless: Great job, Nerzhul!

androl · Post by **androl** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:14 pm

and will there be tricks like "6... Frankfurt" = "Frankfurt am Main" != "1... Frankfurt" = "Frankfurt (Oder)"?

and will it be possible to click on the city name on the note report?
(as exchange for not being possible any more to look for a given city by adding it to the url of the city report)

Post by **Nerzhul** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:25 pm

Correction: Wien/Vienna is listed as a single city now because gauss played a bit with the city manager.

@androl: As I said, homonyms can be taken care of. We just need to create a new "parent" city manually and move the corresponding spellings there.

@Donald: I'm not sure what you mean. Our current goal isn't to standardize all different spellings. The new city data is currently purely appearing in the statistics where zip codes never played a role anyway.

Gauss · Post by **Gauss** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:32 am

androl wrote:and will there be tricks like "6... Frankfurt" = "Frankfurt am Main" != "1... Frankfurt" = "Frankfurt (Oder)"?

Of course. That was the main purpose for Nerzhul's work!
See the city profiles of Frankfurt am Main and Frankfurt (Oder).

(These links may change when the new system is used on the main site. For an initial transition phase, links to city profiles might change several times, but then stabilise.)

Mullams · Post by **Mullams** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:16 am

Will you also standardize all the names of the cities in the countries where there's no euro as well as outside the European Union?

Gauss · Post by **Gauss** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:37 pm

It is technically possible, so I suppose it will mostly be a question of "when", not "if".

androl · Post by **androl** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:46 pm

Gauss wrote:[See the city profiles of Frankfurt am Main and Frankfurt (Oder).

well, I still had to find the user with 1... Frankfurt, but here they are
http://beta.miuku.net/profile/?user=9247
http://beta.miuku.net/profile/?user=87993
one Frankfurt links to 9496, the other to 9486
and all the other Frankfurts are here

Gauss · Post by **Gauss** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:35 pm

androl wrote:and all the other Frankfurts are here

For your information, all the other Frankfurts subsumes currently:

* Frankfort (), Germany
* Frankfort (FRANKFORT), Germany
* Frankfurt (), Germany
* Frankfurt (-), Germany
* Frankfurt (0), Germany
* Frankfurt (00000), Germany
* Frankfurt (00500), Germany
* Frankfurt (04205), Germany
* Frankfurt (2830), Germany
* Frankfurt (29404), Germany
* Frankfurt (35398), Germany
* Frankfurt (35719), Germany
* Frankfurt (50000), Germany
* Frankfurt (50628), Germany
* Frankfurt (50767), Germany
* Frankfurt (56357), Germany
* Frankfurt (80456), Germany
* Frankfurt (91480), Germany
* Frankfurt (93013), Germany
* Frankfurt (?), Germany
* Frankfurt (XXXXX), Germany