Suspicious notes and users

kredithai · Post by **kredithai** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:45 am

Licht & Feuer wrote:Martinius hits into a serie again:

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=24227819

2006-12-05 23:43:34 Uxxxx0929xxx Lxxxxx Leipzig ( Deutschland, 01809)
2006-12-05 23:43:34 Uxxxx0929xxx Lxxxxx Leipzig ( Deutschland, 01809)
2006-12-05 23:43:34 Uxxxx0929xxx Lxxxxx Leipzig ( Deutschland, 01809)
2006-12-05 23:43:34 Uxxxx0929xxx Lxxxxx Leipzig ( Deutschland, 01809)
2006-12-05 23:43:34 Uxxxx0929xxx (*) Lxxxxx Leipzig ( Deutschland, 01809)

die Postleitzahlen für Leipzig beginnen mit 04XXX, für Dresden mit 01XXX

dann hat er alle 10 Minuten einen Treffer mit dem gleichem Partner

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=21976887 23.43 Uhr
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=21976919
23.51 Uhr
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=21976872
00.12 Uhr

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:30 am

I thought Martinius was faking since there was so many brand new notes and still some hits. Please, delete him.

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:55 pm

this is a very nice hit

and this was also a very nice hit

in one week time,... this is what someone can call "too good to be true"

I am anxious to start to believe the words that Androl posted some months ago.

Smike · Post by **Smike** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:52 pm

About tintin, if you look at his NIG statistics (especially his huge table) you can see he doesn't only enter from every combination he has a few (e.g. the finnish notes, only 5

but all have the same first three digits), but also a lot of non existing combinations (check the french notes). And even of those he always enters more then one! I'd say that's a strange distribution of notes, if not impossible.

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 8:45 pm

I don't know about tintin6971, but wasn't idefix1968 the guy entering notes all around the world by joke?

Phaseolus · Post by **Phaseolus** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:10 pm

Klazu wrote:I don't know about tintin6971, but wasn't idefix1968 the guy entering notes all around the world by joke?

Just ake a search on both names : I personaly defended Tintin6971 when Androl had entered serials coming from ET. Idefix1968 is indeed the guy that did enter notes from "places he had been before..."

debemaks · Post by **debemaks** » Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:48 pm

Smike wrote:About tintin, if you look at his NIG statistics (especially his huge table) you can see he doesn't only enter from every combination he has a few (e.g. the finnish notes, only 5 but all have the same first three digits), but also a lot of non existing combinations (check the french notes). And even of those he always enters more then one! I'd say that's a strange distribution of notes, if not impossible.

I had a lookat the huge table for Italy, which I'm more familiar with, a lots of strange mistakes seems to be there

faking or even worst bulshitting code by chance

e.g.::note-5: J001 S002 - 5**
S020 - 6**
S152 - 10** IMPOSSIBLE

S001 - 13**
S003 - 7**
S004 - 7**
S019 - 4**
S125 - 14** IMPOSSIBLE

MetalAtog · Post by **MetalAtog** » Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:58 pm

http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=24142491

Please moderate.

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:36 am

tschaeggi got a big serie of

on "faker-island"

2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:28 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:16:27 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:33:22 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)
2006-12-08 10:39:16 Xxxxx5763xxx Rxxxxx Helgoland ( Deutschland, 27498)

also a serie of

witch is nothing special but alltogether very strange I guess.

Klazu · Post by **Klazu** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:34 am

It's impossible for a tourist to obtain such an amount of money from abroad. I don't trust those (and many other entries from Helgoland) at all.

Dakkus · Post by **Dakkus** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:04 pm

Klazu wrote:It's impossible for a tourist to obtain such an amount of money from abroad. I don't trust those (and many other entries from Helgoland) at all. :?

Dunno.. The people at the bank in Finland had nothing against Haemo changing fivers worth 3000€ into another denomination..
Of course that is a relatively low amount of money as for its value, but nevertheless that we heard no hiccups proves that also tourist /could/ get a large amount of banknotes from abroad.
However, this doesn't mean I would say anything about the guiltiness of some users. I am just pointing out that alone withdrawing many notes is not good enough a proof.

Gauss · Post by **Gauss** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:12 pm

Nomen Nescio wrote:@Gauss & HTTK:

I'm pretty sure user tschaeggi hasn't got a clean consciense regarding EBT,

I have never said that. My posting (which HTTK quoted and apparently didn't understand) was only concerned with the correct use of the word serial. I repeat, once again, because this error in English completely reverses the meaning of the statement:

[url=http://forum.eurobilltracker.eu/viewtopic.php?p=157623#157623]On page 182 of this thread[/url], and [url=http://forum.eurobilltracker.eu/viewtopic.php?p=317213#317213]on page 321 of this thread[/url], and [url=http://forum.eurobilltracker.eu/viewtopic.php?p=371290#371290]on page 362 of this thread[/url], and as often as it will turn out to be necessary, Gauss wrote:"Serial" is an adjective in the first place, meaning: "belonging to a series". It can be made into a noun; a well-known dictionary explains its meaning:
serial (noun)
1 a : a work appearing (as in a magazine or on television) in parts at intervals b : one part of a serial work : synonym to "installment"
2 : a publication (as a newspaper or journal) issued as one of a consecutively numbered and indefinitely continued
Neither applies really for our purposes.

However, the noun "serial" is most commonly used as abbreviation for "serial number". Obviously entering serials (=serial numbers) is a major way to use EBT. The concern here is that some users might invent large series (!) of consecutive serial numbers.

It is of vital importance to
1) either not omit the word consecutive, which indicates the issue,
2) or to use the word series instead of serials.

I am not a on a crusade to promote proper use of English language, but this particular phrase ("entering serials" instead of "entering series of consecutive serial numbers") is not simply wrong, but distorting. As long as it remains clear what is intended, minor mistakes tend to be self-correcting. This one isn't.

Licht & Feuer · Post by **Licht & Feuer** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 12:29 pm

Dakkus wrote:I am just pointing out that alone withdrawing many notes is not good enough a proof.

Of course not.
But besides that it do not seem to be the best time to visit a windy deep-sea island, please keep in mind that Helgoland is a very small comunitiy where only two local banks are situated to fullfill the demand of only 1650 inhabitants so I won't expect bundles of unc

there as they are very unusual in circulation.

Together with the fact that tschaeggi seems usualy to enter consecutive serials, this strange mix seems at least worth a closer look in my opinion.

Petri6 · Post by **Petri6** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:58 pm

Licht & Feuer wrote:
Dakkus wrote:I am just pointing out that alone withdrawing many notes is not good enough a proof.
Of course not.
But besides that it do not seem to be the best time to visit a windy deep-sea island, please keep in mind that Helgoland is a very small comunitiy where only two local banks are situated to fullfill the demand of only 1650 inhabitants so I won't expect bundles of unc there as they are very unusual in circulation.

Together with the fact that tschaeggi seems usualy to enter consecutive serials, this strange mix seems at least worth a closer look in my opinion.

And 28 000e (did I count correctly?) is a lot of money and even more cash.

androl · Post by **androl** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:52 pm

debemaks wrote:
Smike wrote:About tintin, if you look at his NIG statistics (especially his huge table) you can see he doesn't only enter from every combination he has a few (e.g. the finnish notes, only 5 but all have the same first three digits), but also a lot of non existing combinations (check the french notes). And even of those he always enters more then one! I'd say that's a strange distribution of notes, if not impossible.
I had a lookat the huge table for Italy, which I'm more familiar with, a lots of strange mistakes seems to be there faking or even worst bulshitting code by chance

e.g.::note-5: J001 S002 - 5**
S020 - 6**
S152 - 10** IMPOSSIBLE

S001 - 13**
S003 - 7**
S004 - 7**
S019 - 4**
S125 - 14** IMPOSSIBLE

really strange, look at the L012 20€ for example
France U**05 - 6*
France U**10 - 7*
France U**25 - 5*
France U**28 - 4*
France U**33 - 10***
France U**34 - 14**
France U**35 - 31**
France U**36 - 9*
France U**42 - 11*
France U**51 - 5*
France U**58 - 1
France U**59 - 4*
France U**65 - 6*
France U**74 - 6*
France U**85 - 6*
France U**94 - 6*
France U**95 - 11*
France U**96 - 5*

only the 33, 34 and 35 are correct. It is really strange that he has that often 4,5,6,9,11 of the wrong combinations. Are these all series?

I once gave you clear evidence that he took some specific note data from Eurotracer (which some of you didn't believe, possibly because they thought, someone who is active on the forum just could not do such things), but this is a completely different thing, as the printer codes are visible at Eurotracer, so I don't think these wrong combinations are the notes from ET. He also has many more notes that look perfectly fine.
I think most of his notes are very accurate, but then he added some additional notes that do not really apply to the rules of note data acquisition