Development WG's famous to do list

[kettenseger]

As far as I can understand he wants a new ranking including ONLY people that entered notes in that place but that DO NOT live there. These are "visitors" in his point of view.
Am I right?

YES

[Nerzhul]

I would be happy if it is possible to have 3 groups:
users - who are living in that country/region/city and have entered notes there
visitors - who are not living in that country/region/city and have entered notes there
enterer - who has enterd notes in that country/region/city

Hmmm I see your point but as you can tell from the discussion such a distinction would be highly confusing. Especially since the best name for your proposed group would be "visitors" (i.e. everybody who entered notes but doesn't live there) which has been in use with different semantics for quite some time on EBT now.

[kettenseger]

I see that my names for the 3 groups were not the best choice.
Maybe somebody knows better names.

[lmviterbo]

I see that my names for the 3 groups were not the best choice.
Maybe somebody knows better names.

(Unfortunately?) Visitors and Users must remain as they are, because of their already established use.

For the other category you suggest:

• Alien trackers?
  Strangers?

Now some serious proposals (yes, even the last one):

• Noncitizens
  Outlanders
  Foreigners
  Gringos

[CarlosManta]

I see that my names for the 3 groups were not the best choice.
Maybe somebody knows better names.

(Unfortunately?) Visitors and Users must remain as they are, because of their already established use.

For the other category you suggest:

• Alien trackers?
  Strangers?

Now some serious proposals (yes, even the last one):

• Noncitizens
  Outlanders
  Foreigners
  Gringos

guest, caller, journeyer, wayfarer, ...

I guess you would split (current) visitors into "local visitors" and "guest visitors".

Wouldn't something like setting one of these to bold or italic do the trick?

I am pretty sure people would figure out very quickly the difference between italic and normal (guests and locals). Otherwise a legend would be needed...

[TurboTim]

I see that my names for the 3 groups were not the best choice.
Maybe somebody knows better names.

Perhaps:
All
inhabitants
visitors

[kettenseger]

...

I guess you would split (current) visitors into "local visitors" and "guest visitors".

Wouldn't something like setting one of these to bold or italic do the trick?

I am pretty sure people would figure out very quickly the difference between italic and normal (guests and locals). Otherwise a legend would be needed...

your "local visitors" are the current users, and yes I want a ranking with "guest visitors".
When you only set the guests italic, you have to count all italic visitors to know on which rank you are.
and when you are on a place behind 1500, it is not possibe to count.

Thank you for your suggestions.
Is there an interest in that ranking, or is it only me who want to see that?

[CarlosManta]

your "local visitors" are the current users,

No, not exactly. "Currently" users are the trackers registered in that city, showing the total bills entered everywhere.
For example, I appear twice in the city "Porto" rankings. In the users I have 12000 bills (my total) and in visitors I have 2500 (the bills I inserted there. By local visitors I mean this second figure.

and yes I want a ranking with "guest visitors". When you only set the guests italic, you have to count all italic visitors to know on which rank you are.

Yes, you are right, "highlighting" would not create a separate ranking.
Personally I prefer ii this way. As you see from the figures above I insert a big percentage of bills elsewhere than where I live (where I work, were my parents live, ...), so for me it is interesting to see how I as a "guest visitor" rank against the "local visitors".
But you cannot please everyone, that's for sure, I don't mind if the statistic/ranking is split up.

[kettenseger]

...
so for me it is interesting to see how I as a "guest visitor" rank against the "local visitors".
But you cannot please everyone, that's for sure, I don't mind if the statistic/ranking is split up.

and for me it's interesting how active/successful I am in a foreign city/region/country without all the local users.
but it's not our decision if the feature will be attached to the site.

[dserrano5]

Not a long time ago, I got a quite rare F/Y note. I took a look to the tables and checked that, in fact, with only 34.000 notes registered, that's a not frequent combo.

This morning I saw a R/X and I also thought it wasn't very common, so went to take a look to the table. There are more than 3.5 million of such notes registered, with 3.7 million of :note-10:s too, so I decided that I must be wrong (since R/X doesn't look rare to me).

Nevertheless I checked my personal CSV and found only 6 R/X, for no less than 155 R/X. Therefore, the conclusion I drew is that, although in the overall EBT database some combo may not look rare, it may actually be in some particular countries (assuming that my particular frequencies can be extrapolated to reflect those in all Spain).

Then I thought that having per-country tables could be an additional nice tool to show note diffusion around Europe, along with the pie charts that are already available, especially since the pie charts don't separate different denominations. Could we have them? They could be selected with a drop-down list, just like anywhere at EBT.

Just for reference, here are the number of R/X low denomination notes in the EBT tables and in my CSV:

: 3510748 (6)
: 3745369 (155)
: 110447 (15)
: 1988469 (16)

And their percentages:

: 36.09% (3.08%)
: 38.51% (79.49%)
: 1.14% (7.69%)
: 20.44% (8.21%)

The difference in the distributions is obvious .

[-flop-]

Would it be possible to have in Statistics' and Ranking's tables the chance to filter not only the country but also the other administrative divisions of first, second and third level?
I would really appreciate...

[dserrano5]

Sorry for bringing this up again:

I've just entered 11 notes from Spain, local time 23:10 (CEST == GMT+2). In my list of notes, they appear with my local time as expected. But if I go to the note statistics, I happen to have 11 notes entered in May 2010. I suspect these 11 are the ones I just entered, and appear in May because some glitch in the time zone management by the application.

http://eurobilltracker.com/faq/?command ... b=4;mark=7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; should answer your question.

<Personal thoughts>
The more time passes, the more I look at this as a bug. Notes shouldn't be placed on different dates depending on the angle you look at them from. Therefore, I no longer enter notes at 23:xx CEST (that's my problem of course).
</Personal thoughts>

[dserrano5]

This may or may not be regarded as a "to do" item .

I've made a greasemonkey script to colorize the invalid country letters in the tables section. For instance, the printer D hasn't made any notes for Germany, so the X notes in the D row are incorrect - that notes have the "X" in red.

This is it:

Code: Select all

var all_combs = new Array (
    'DL5', 'DL10', 'DL20', 'DL50', 'DL100', 'DL200', 'DL500',
    'EH20',
    'EL5', 'EL20',
    'EP5',
    'EU20', 'EU100',
    'EX200',
    'FN5', 'FN10', 'FN20', 'FN50', 'FN100', 'FN500',
    'FP5', 'FP500',
    'FS50',
    'FT500',
    'FY10',
    'GF20',
    'GG20',
    'GH20',
    'GL20',
    'GN200',
    'GP5', 'GP10', 'GP20', 'GP50', 'GP100', 'GP200',
    'GV10',
    'GX10',
    'GY50', 'GY100',
    'HL20', 'HL50', 'HL100',
    'HM20', 'HM50',
    'HP50',
    'HT20',
    'JS5', 'JS10', 'JS20', 'JS50', 'JS100', 'JS200', 'JS500',
    'KT5', 'KT10', 'KT20', 'KT50', 'KT100',
    'LU5', 'LU10', 'LU20', 'LU50',
    'MV5', 'MV10', 'MV20', 'MV50', 'MV100',
    'NY5', 'NY10', 'NY20', 'NY50',
    'PL20',
    'PM100',
    'PP5', 'PP10', 'PP20',
    'PU100',
    'PV50',
    'PX5', 'PX10', 'PX20', 'PX50', 'PX100',
    'PY5', 'PY100',
    'RP5',
    'RX5', 'RX10', 'RX20', 'RX50', 'RX200', 'RX500',
    'RY200', 'RY500',
    'TU200', 'TU500',
    'TV200', 'TV500',
    'TZ5', 'TZ10', 'TZ20', 'TZ50', 'TZ100', 'TZ200', 'TZ500',
    'UM5', 'UM10', 'UM20'
);
var cell2denom = new Array (0, 0, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200, 500);

function color() {
    var table_search = document.evaluate ('//tr/td/center/table', document, null, XPathResult.UNORDERED_NODE_SNAPSHOT_TYPE, null);
    var cnt = table_search.snapshotLength;
    if (1 == cnt) {
        var tbl = table_search.snapshotItem (0);

        for (row in tbl.children[0].children) {  // table -> tbody -> all_rows
            var tr = tbl.children[0].children[row];
            var pc = tr.children[0].innerHTML;
            if (1 != pc.length) { continue; }

            for (cell in tr.children) {
                var td = tr.children[cell];
                if (cell < 2) { continue; }

                for (child in td.children) {
                    var element = td.children[child];
                    if (!element.href) { continue; }
                    var cc = element.innerHTML;
                    var key = pc+cc+cell2denom[cell];

                    // grep
                    var found = 0;
                    for (idx = 0; idx < all_combs.length; idx++) {
                        if (key == all_combs[idx]) {
                            found = 1;
                            break;
                        }
                    }

                    if (!found) {
                        var color = '#FF0000';
                        element.innerHTML = '<font color="'+color+'">'+cc+'</font>';
                    }
                }
            }
        }
    } else {
        alert ('number of tables found ('+cnt+') should be exactly one');
    }
}

window.addEventListener ('load', color, false);

[anto989]

How do I do to watch bills I entered in a specific time?for ex. in may 2009 or 15july 2008 etc...is there a way to do this?

[R/J]

How do I do to watch bills I entered in a specific time?for ex. in may 2009 or 15july 2008 etc...is there a way to do this?

You can do that by using the following format:

Search your notes for "yyyy-mm-dd", so the dates you mentioned would be 2009-05 and 2008-07-15.

(You can even include the time in it, I just checked, but you'll have to use Finnish time for the hours.)