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Post by Phaseolus »

Niclas-ex wrote: Yes, it was. What a funny name "nbsp clone"! :-D And you should
remember, there's no way to stop me ;-) :-p I still have many accounts
entering fake notes :-p And the €tracer is still leaking like a shieve.. haha!! ByeBye :)
Well everybody has his own idea of "fun".

Obviously, you must be a lonely zip face to enjoy doing this.

Personaly, I would prefer to drink a beer, or date a girl, or if I would be a zip face I would even favour to rent a X-film : at least the sweat on my fingers would benefit to me....

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Post by Smike »

Why has this hit been moderated?

I happened to have a similar hit with the same user two days before that one, but I don't see a relation between those two!
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Interesting, a message from you. We haven't heard from you for a while.

Now that I have your attention, I'd like to point out that we can stop you, although it may take quite a bit of time and money. Money isn't really a concern for us at the moment, but the lack of available time has been somewhat of a problem recently. We had kind of hoped that you'd finally come to your senses and stop this childish behaviour. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case here, and we're forced to switch to heavier ammunition, so to speak.

First of all, we know quite a bit of you already, beyond what can be directly seen from the EBT data. The abuse people at some ISPs have been helpful to track you down. Unfortunately most of the ISPs in question don't really care, but the ones that have provided us information have been invaluable. At this point we have all the data we need, there's no longer a need for us to have email correspondence with the abuse people at those ISPs.

There are some legal options that we might use against you, but I think the most effective and straightforward way is to use financial means. Beginning today, the time spent researching your activities or correcting the database will cost you 87€ per hour + 22% VAT (minimum charge 1 hour). This price is actually very moderate, I could charge you the night or weekend rates as well which are substantially higher.

This simply means that the next note you enter into the database will cost you 87€ + VAT, regardless of the validity of the note data you enter.

If you continue the abuse, we'll mail you the bill (the one you pay, ie. not a bill in the EuroBillTracker sense). If you don't pay that bill, we'll send you a reminder. If you still don't pay, we'll let the guys at Intrum Justitia extract the money from you using any legal method they have in their arsenal. At some point they may take the issue to court, and after that some other nice execution officer will come to you and grab your computer to cover the bills. I'm not exactly sure when they'll insert a note to your credit information stating that you're not paying for your bills, but that's probably somewhere along the road.

Oh, and I won't be doing this myself, except for the database cleanup and some of the research. I have some professionals that I can use to handle all the gory details, so it's essentially fire-and-forget for me. I can cover the basic billing costs myself, but if I'm forced to use money extraction services, I'll add the costs to your bill.

I'll just warn you that if you try to hide yourself somehow, the time spent investigating your case will cost the same 87€+22%VAT/hour. For example, if you use some new method to hide your identity and it takes us 10 hours to figure out the connection back to you, blam, you have 870€ +22%VAT less money to spend on your other hobbies. Now it's up to you to decide what to do next. The wisest thing is probably to forget EBT altogether and to concentrate on your other hobbies and activities.

Nice doing business with you.

BTW, we're quite aware that ET doesn't protect the serial numbers as much as EBT does. Unfortunately ET is beyond our control, and the ET administration has been unwilling to make any further changes to their site to prevent this from happening again. If you have a problem with ET's data security, may I suggest that you discuss the issue with them and not harm innocent organizations like EBT? We can't do anything about the fundamental problem, we can just try to fix the symptoms.

And one more final thing: WHY are you doing this? It seems quite pointless to me. Are you trying to push some agenda, or support some other site, have your notes been unfairly moderated or is this something personal against EBT users or myself? I'd like to know this, regardless of whether you decide to continue the abuse or not.

Edit about half an hour later: I forgot to mention that VAT 22% will be applied to the prices. This has now been corrected.
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Post by bhoeyb »

Niclas-ex wrote:
joergb30 wrote:ascensorista, a new nbsp clone?

number of interesting hits : 2
inserted banknotes : 2


http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=10459925
http://www.eurobilltracker.eu/index.php ... d=10459913
Yes, it was. What a funny name "nbsp clone"! :-D And you should
remember, there's no way to stop me ;-) :-p I still have many accounts
entering fake notes :-p And the €tracer is still leaking like a shieve.. haha!! ByeBye :)
Thanks for helping to make EBT a better and safer website :twisted: :lol: ...
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Post by joker79 »

Qualche italiano più colto di me riesce a spiegare in 2 parole quello che ha detto avij? Dai toni mi sembra un pò arrabbiato... :?
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Post by Klazu »

Avij is right and I'm happy something finally seems to be done against this very disturbed person. This ~12-year-old idiot is going to be so busted after his parents discover those bills coming to their home... :lol:
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Dakkus wrote:
Klazu wrote:There was five identical hits between these two. Ted X has been a quite well-known faker so I wonder how one of the hits has been left as it's very unlikely to be real. :?
I'm pretty sure the "Véronique" Ted X mentions is Vévé, Ted's hitpartner. If so, it feels a bit odd he's actually saying he got the note from her.
You are right : vévé and Véronique are the same person. Véronique had given me lot of notes for a long time before becoming my goddaugther. So, all hits with her have to be moderated.

I have today 1779 notes, but just only one hit. So I'm a very bad faker :wink:
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@Ted X: Thank you for the explanation. I'm sorry for being such strict on you. I just remembered that your name would be realted to many suspicious hits. I guess I was wrong, sorry. No hard feelings now when things are clear? :wink:
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joker79 wrote:Qualche italiano più colto di me riesce a spiegare in 2 parole quello che ha detto avij? Dai toni mi sembra un pò arrabbiato... :?
guarda il forum italiano.


English: he asked for an italian translation. My answer is to give a look to the italian forum ;)
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Klazu wrote:@Ted X: Thank you for the explanation. I'm sorry for being such strict on you. I just remembered that your name would be realted to many suspicious hits. I guess I was wrong, sorry. No hard feelings now when things are clear? :wink:
All are OK. Thank you :D
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Post by Dakkus »

Klazu wrote:I just remembered that your name would be realted to many suspicious hits.
This is EXACTLY why this thread should be locked.
I'd also recommend attaching a big rock to this thread and throwing it in middle of some ocean. Please.

People. Please.. Don't murder innocent people as witches. Even if they are innocent, they will be considered witches forever by the great public. Don't let it happen. Don't post anything in this topic.
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Dakkus wrote:I'd also recommend attaching a big rock to this thread and throwing it in middle of some ocean. Please.
I agree :!: :!:
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Post by tintin6971 »

aplfi wrote:
Dakkus wrote:I'd also recommend attaching a big rock to this thread and throwing it in middle of some ocean. Please.
I agree :!: :!:
I agree too,

We have good moderators, let them do their job :!:
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User 69Midas69

(€5)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx9243xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx9243xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx9243xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx8387xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx8387xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx8387xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURXxxxx5660xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURXxxxx5660xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURXxxxx5660xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx0757xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx0757xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURUxxxx0757xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURNxxxx3731xxx Fxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURNxxxx3731xxx Fxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURNxxxx3731xxx Fxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx7121xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx7121xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx7121xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:07:46 5 EURMxxxx7121xxx Uxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)


6 different consucetive serials.
And he (4167 notes / 3 hits) has been mentioned before in this topic.....






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and more (€20)

2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURVxxxx3080xxx Mxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURVxxxx3080xxx Mxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURVxxxx3080xxx Mxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURSxxxx6632xxx Jxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURSxxxx6632xxx Jxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURSxxxx6632xxx Jxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURPxxxx4188xxx Gxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURPxxxx4188xxx Gxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURPxxxx4188xxx Gxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURXxxxx6887xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURXxxxx6887xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURXxxxx6887xxx Pxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURUxxxx1770xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURUxxxx1770xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURUxxxx1770xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURUxxxx1770xxx Lxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
2005-09-27 22:56:42 20 EURVxxxx2896xxx Mxxxxx Barquinha ( Flag for Portugal Portugal, 2260-551)
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aplfi wrote:
Dakkus wrote:I'd also recommend attaching a big rock to this thread and throwing it in middle of some ocean. Please.
I agree :!: :!:
Would be OK with me too , but then we have to have a way to PM someone about users / hits we see as suspicious..

The more eyes the better I guess..
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