Will Sweden vote in favour of the Euro ?

querty · Post by **querty** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:34 pm

bhoeyb wrote:
avij wrote:Normal citizens don't know how to run a country
Men know how to do, women don't. They've been voting more 'NO' than men .

We know that men are normal.

I am sorry to all women here I can't help it.

airis · Post by **airis** » Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:51 pm

No-side was very clever to use the idea that euro is going to be a "kvinnofälla" (=a trap for women). Many women work in public sector and earn quite little. They targeted their message to these women. The idea they told that when the Swedish central bank can't control rates the public sector will suffer most. The only way to control economy is to control the money spend in public sector. So there will be smaller salaries and less jobs. I think many women even thought they might end up housewifes. So Swedish women probably thought that because euro is created by men it can´t be good for women.

Women were also sure that the prices will go up. There were a lot of stories in Swedish media that how the prices went up in Europe. Sometimes I felt that Swedish journalists only can ask two questions: What do you think about Euro and has the prices gone up. A sister of my friend who has lived for a long time in Sweden told that she voted No, because she feared that everything would be more expensive.

Swedes also always want to decide everything themselves. Finns, Danes and Norwegians really their big brother attitude and don´t want to do things same way as Swedes. So it can happen that Danes will like to adopt euro and Norwegians could join EU.

Annie_in_exile · Post by **Annie_in_exile** » Wed Sep 17, 2003 4:36 pm

Has Sweden made the right choice on the euro? - Comments on the results of the referendum on the BBC news site:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3109118.stm

Mullams · Post by **Mullams** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:01 pm

Any news about Sweden introducing the euro?

Dakkus · Post by **Dakkus** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:49 pm

None. They might think again when the new countries join the Euroland. We'll see.

Craft · Post by **Craft** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:38 pm

I don't think that Sweden would join the eurozone in a near future - certainly not if the matter continues to be subject to a public referendum. I belive that the majority of people tend to think mostly about the immediate practical consequences, like how inconvenient it would be to learn all the prices in the new currency etc. It might be very difficult to become convinced on the greater goals and pros of the common currency.

tabbs · Post by **tabbs** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 4:16 pm

Let's see - the referendum about the euro in Sweden was less than three years ago. People made their choice, and it would be odd in my opinion if they were asked to vote again every three or four years ...

Also, we have a few member states in the European Union that do not participate in the euro system, neither in the currency union nor in the exchange rate mechanism: the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, and the United Kingdom. The latter two are likely to stay out anyway - and frankly, does it matter much?

Euroland would work about as good or bad with them as it works without them. And if the people in those countries believe it's better to stay out, so be it. Basically the same applies to Sweden, I think.

Christian

groentje · Post by **groentje** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 5:17 pm

Except DK and UK, who obtained an exclusion clausule, every EU member is hold to become member of the EMU one day. Of course, to become member of the EMU, they also have to have a stable economy, small inflation etc.

Olivier · Post by **Olivier** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:41 am

Dakkus wrote:None. They might think again when the new countries join the Euroland. We'll see.

Yes, there can be a new dynamic with new countries joining the eurozone.
2007 - Slovenia
2008 - Estonia and Malta
2009 - Slovakia...
2012 - Canada

tabbs · Post by **tabbs** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:07 am

Olivier wrote:2012 - Canada

2050 - Poland. Unless the country leaves the EU before that date.

Christian

Mullams · Post by **Mullams** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:27 am

Exactly the same applies to the UK, maybe even 2100, but they can leave as well

Mullams · Post by **Mullams** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:00 pm

Is it true that we cannot hope for Sweden to introduce the euro with the new government after this month's elections?

tabbs · Post by **tabbs** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:32 pm

The decision against the euro in Sweden was not taken by the government (Göran Persson was basically for the euro) but in a referendum, only three years ago.

The problem with such a vote is that a "No" does not change the status quo but a "Yes" decision (ie. joining the currency union) would be difficult to revert later. So in my opinion it would almost be dishonest to ask people again and again. In ten years or so they can think about a new referendum.

Christian

Dakkus · Post by **Dakkus** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:43 pm

Well, I had figured the supporters of euro quite well correlated with the supporters of the social democratic party, while the opposers would've been the conservatives. And therefore, if the power balance of the parties changes, maybe also the thoughts about the euro will change. It would be worth remembering, that a referendum about euro actually meters the peoples' feelings about euro, not actually what they think is best for them.

Mullams · Post by **Mullams** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:15 pm

tabbs wrote:The decision against the euro in Sweden was not taken by the government (Göran Persson was basically for the euro) but in a referendum, only three years ago.

The problem with such a vote is that a "No" does not change the status quo but a "Yes" decision (ie. joining the currency union) would be difficult to revert later. So in my opinion it would almost be dishonest to ask people again and again. In ten years or so they can think about a new referendum.

Christian

Yes, I know it was the people of Sweden who voted in the referendum. I rather wanted to find out about the (probable) position of the new government on this matter.

If it goes to asking the population about the euro too often, I don't totally agree since you must remember that people become of legal age every year and they would also like to have something to say so organizing a referendum every ten years seems a bit too rarely to me.