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Joshu, a Chinese Zen master, asked a cow:
"Do you have Buddha-nature or not?"
The cow answered: "Moo."
"Do you have Buddha-nature or not?"
The cow answered: "Moo."
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And 'it's a pity' instead of 'it's I pity'...
I recently had to follow some (pretty useless) lectures about 'creativity in academic writing', where the lecturer kept on stressing our insane need to replace the verb "to be" with more elaborate forms, to make its meaning milder or to make the sentence sound better: e.g. "scientific evidence suggests/shows that Pluto is smaller than the Moon", instead of "Pluto is smaller than the Moon". And also, nothing "is" extraordinary: it just "seems" so.
I didn't like the lectures at all, and therefore I'm now leading a personal crusade in favour of replacing the verb "to be" with milder or more accurate forms whenever it's needed.
(but consider that the lectures were about the Italian language; in English I'm much more comfortable using the verb "to be"...)
I recently had to follow some (pretty useless) lectures about 'creativity in academic writing', where the lecturer kept on stressing our insane need to replace the verb "to be" with more elaborate forms, to make its meaning milder or to make the sentence sound better: e.g. "scientific evidence suggests/shows that Pluto is smaller than the Moon", instead of "Pluto is smaller than the Moon". And also, nothing "is" extraordinary: it just "seems" so.
I didn't like the lectures at all, and therefore I'm now leading a personal crusade in favour of replacing the verb "to be" with milder or more accurate forms whenever it's needed.
(but consider that the lectures were about the Italian language; in English I'm much more comfortable using the verb "to be"...)
Your apparent meaning, that even though the lectures confined themselves to the Italian language, you still feel more comfortable in English when using more direct verbal forms to express existence or lack of such existence, leads me to believe that although you speak English well, perhaps some aspects of its usage may be unfamiliar to you. In particular, expressing a definite opinion on any subject whatsoever, may, in polite circles, cause no little embarrassment. To avoid such humiliation, or even social ostracism, the well-educated Englishman will never express an opinion, no matter how firmly held, that may cause offence simply by the fact that it contradicts that of another. Example:WinstonSmith wrote:(but consider that the lectures were about the Italian language; in English I'm much more comfortable using the verb "to be"...)
Man 1: "How's your wife?"
Man 2: "Elizabeth? She's fine!"
Man 1: "Elizabeth? But I could have sworn her name was Emily!"
Man 2: "Well, I think it's Elizabeth, but then again I could be mistaken.."
Man 1: "No, no, I'm sure you're right, she's called Elizabeth, but I was sure.."
Man 2: "No, come to think of it some people do call her Emma.."
--the conversation last twenty more minutes before it transpires that Man 2 is not married at all.
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This is a matter of meaning; mine was rather a matter of "different ways to express the same idea".
Man 1: "How's your wife?" ---> Italian: "Come sta sua moglie?" (stare = to feel)
Man 2: "Elizabeth? She's fine!" ---> "Sta bene!" (again, to feel, and not to be)
...and so on
Anyway you're right, I don't know English to such an extent!
Man 1: "How's your wife?" ---> Italian: "Come sta sua moglie?" (stare = to feel)
Man 2: "Elizabeth? She's fine!" ---> "Sta bene!" (again, to feel, and not to be)
...and so on
Anyway you're right, I don't know English to such an extent!
Actually, the whole response was a (poor) attempt at a joke: the first paragraph was just an attempt to write a paragraph without using the verb "to be". The dialogue following was just an extreme example of how the English consider it rather impolite to be certain about anything at all (or at least to avoid offense by seeming to be certain). Your example of
But I could be wrong.
is a classic example of this, and actually sounds very English to my ears!."scientific evidence suggests/shows that Pluto is smaller than the Moon", instead of "Pluto is smaller than the Moon"
But I could be wrong.
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Why we have to speak English, if England is outside of Europe?
Let's speak Esperanto!
Or, perhaps, why don't open a "latini topicum"?
(One of those days, I will do it)
EDIT 2 Yes, I edited because I wrote "is" for a mistake, I corrected in "if". Now I have edited twice
Let's speak Esperanto!
Or, perhaps, why don't open a "latini topicum"?
(One of those days, I will do it)
EDIT 2 Yes, I edited because I wrote "is" for a mistake, I corrected in "if". Now I have edited twice
Last edited by claudio vda on Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:09 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Opss!androl wrote: You're OFF-TOPIC!!!!![]()
But you are right, stop with the latin discussion here
PS: I didn't understood at all your English traduction of Gauss' message: maybe in Latin it was better for me
EDIT PPS: but THIS topic is a sort of off-topic, why we can't discuss of Latin? We have discuss of English and the original was "EBT is beatiful"
What the moderators say?

