Spanish notes in Belgium

bhoeyb · Post by **bhoeyb** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:02 pm

Looks like at the moment, there are more and more Spanish 20E m007.. banknotes in Belgium. A few days ago, I've got 7 brand new 20 E m007.. notes from the bank. Are they importing already new foreign banknotes??
Does someone noticed this in his country too?

Eurocracker · Post by **Eurocracker** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 8:32 pm

I think, the reason is the pooling-system. In the future every printer will produce only special notes, for example, the [Bundesdruckerei Berlin] will produce 10 €-Notes only in the future. Every country will get its notes from these printers in depending of the value they need. For your observation this system seems to valid already

Greets,
Eurocracker.

thomas · Post by **thomas** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 9:39 pm

Eurocracker wrote:I think, the reason is the pooling-system. In the future every printer will produce only special notes, for example, the [Bundesdruckerei Berlin] will produce 10 €-Notes only in the future.

The pooling system is used since 2002. The distribution of who issues what is found at my site (information/notes.php) for 2002 and 2003 and on the FAQ of the ECB (www.ecb.int/change/change.htm) for 2002 only.

But it is the NCB's who issue only special denominations on behalf of all other NCB's. And the NCB's order the notes from printers. X ordered 10 EUR notes befrore 2002 only at R, but this year maybe also at P since X/10/P-notes do appear recently.

Thomas

Eurocracker · Post by **Eurocracker** » Tue Dec 03, 2002 11:23 pm

Thank you for this detailed description, Thomas

It's a bit difficult system, but such observations like bhoeyb's one will be normal in future ...

Eurocracker

BossaNova · Post by **BossaNova** » Wed Dec 04, 2002 1:24 am

I'm kind sleepy now.. not sure if I'm folowing you.. are you speaking about the printer code, or the serial number?

any way.. lasta month I've seen an unusual number of dutch 10euro notes, really brand new notes.. but they were dutch not only in the print code but also in the serial..

does this have anything to do with this discussion...?

I shouldn't be writing.. I should be spleeping...

too tired.. to think or speak in english...

bn

bhoeyb · Post by **bhoeyb** » Wed Dec 04, 2002 11:50 am

BossaNova wrote:I'm kind sleepy now.. not sure if I'm folowing you.. are you speaking about the printer code, or the serial number?

Yes, both are Spanish, V-notes printed by M in Spain. It would be nicer if they make Belgian Z-notes printed by M in Spain.
That way, we can still follow the diffusion of foreing notes in each country. Now they are importing Spanish printed V-notes into Belgium

. No way to have a correct diffusion view in the futur for each country

.
But we still have our hit system

. BWT, I've been hit again today

.

BossaNova · Post by **BossaNova** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 12:15 am

bhoeyb wrote:. BWT, I've been hit again today .

lucky you, I have 809notes and 0 hits

, if I don't get any hit until 1000notes, I'l stop there...

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 7:46 am

NOOO

:(:(
Don't give up so soon !!!

bhoeyb · Post by **bhoeyb** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 8:38 am

BossaNova wrote: if I don't get any hit until 1000notes, I'l stop there...

I wouldn't stop if I was you, esp. now there are quite a lot of new users from Portugal! Look at the diffusion page at EBT.com: about 11% of inserted notes is from Portugal. That's as much as Belgium. The amount of inserted notes of your country is rising the most last months!
Anyway, it's your choise, but we'll miss you when you stop ...

Skylimit · Post by **Skylimit** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 1:05 pm

I was getting a bit desperado too ... but got my first hit yesterday
after 670 notes entered.

BossaNova · Post by **BossaNova** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 4:20 pm

Tiger wrote:NOOO :(:(
Don't give up so soon !!!

don't worry guys, I'm too adicted...

it was just a moment of dispair....

bn

and yes, now there are many portuguese users, but they're almost all from south.. and Spain is an eurotracking-desert.. I must go spend some days in Lisbon soon...

EuroBillTracker · Post by **EuroBillTracker** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 9:00 pm

BossaNova wrote:and Spain is an eurotracking-desert..

And so is France

avij · Post by **avij** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 9:42 pm

BossaNova wrote:Spain is an eurotracking-desert..

So true. Funny that Portugal has more than 4x more EBT notes than Spain, even though Portugal's population is about 1/4 of Spain. Some stats:

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          Population    Notes   Ratio
Belgium     10274595   120745      85
Germany     83251851   146090     570
Greece      10645343     7369    1445
Spain       40077100     3830   10464
France      59765983    24436    2446
Ireland      3883159     4016     967
Italy       57715625     7182    8036
Luxembourg    448569     1343     334
Netherlands 16067754    79230     203
Austria      8169929     5946    1374
Portugal    10084245    18216     554
Finland      5183545    65384      79

.. 40 million people and only 3830 notes gives a ratio of one EBT note per 10464 Spaniards. Compare that with Finns -- one EBT note per 79 Finns

Belgians aren't that far behind, either.

(source: EBT and CIA Factbook)

Tiger · Post by **Tiger** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 10:40 pm

avij wrote:

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          Population    Notes   Ratio
Belgium     10274595   120745      85

Cool, without me, there would be 10274594 Belgians....

Look mom! I do am important !
Without me there would be another number !!!

/me happy :p

bhoeyb · Post by **bhoeyb** » Fri Dec 06, 2002 11:06 pm

avij wrote:

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          Population    Notes   Ratio
Germany     83251851   146090     570
Portugal    10084245    18216     554

Portugal is even better than Germany